why is loss of freedom of movement in eu seen as a big deal

[motorbiking]

I don’t personally know anyone that has ever considered retiring abroad and I know plenty that could afford to, even now. Go on, surprise me. I suppose you personally know of dozens that were planning to do so before Brexit but whose plans were scuppered because of it……

If Burnham gets in or Labour shifts further left on taxes, I'd be daft not to.

 

[King Billy]

You are still jumping around between different tax options.

Clearly you're the one wandering from one topic to another. We were discussing the ease of average pensioners retiring to another EU country pre Brexit.
We were never discussing the lower taxation opportunities for the well-heeled.

The flat rate taxes are designed for higher net worth individuals.

See above.

You can apply for residency well before your 15 years are up.

What and apply the higher band sof taxation and social charges and the comprehenisve health insurance?
You must be joking.

As someone who is retired having paid 50% nominal rate and will likely do so this year and only a bit less next year, I can only dream of 7% tax

Then immediately read you next comment:-

I'm glad we no longer have free movement. It stops Europes net benifitiers from raiding our taxes.

You ague for the well-heeled pensioner to migrate to Greece, to enjoy lower taxes. then argue that UK should rejoice for not having free movement, so that average pensioners cannot easily move between EU countries, in case they're a drain on the country's taxes.
The two concepts are contradictory and motivated purely by self interest.
Concept 1:. Retire to a lower taxation country outside of UK, but in EU where free movement of people is still a foundation freedom but only for EU citizens.
2. Prevent a similar migration to UK to prevent pensioners migrating from EU to UK in case they're a drain on UK taxpayers. But it's OK for EU citizens to enjoy the freedom of free movement.

Its only fair that the reverse is also true.

But if you did what you urge others to do, it wouldn't be your taxes supporting the EU pensioners, who migrated to UK, who need supporting, in UK, because you'd be paying taxes in Greece.
But if you retire to Greece, you're happy for your taxes to support EU citizens who have retired to Greece and need some support, just so long as your taxes are lower.
So evidently, you want to retire in UK, for other personal reasons than low taxes, but because you don't want to migrate, you want to deny others the opportunity to retire to the sun.
Perhaps your fiddling of VAT has some weight in your reasoning.

Do you see the irony, and how your arguments and ideology are not congruent?

 

[King Billy]

not most, some.

The majority by any merit.

But from my previous post, you want to remain in UK, for personal reasons, you don't want EU pensioners retiring to UK, in case they're a drain on the UK taxpayers. not that they would want to, but you're arguing for UK pensioners to retire to the sun.
If EU pensioner did retire to UK, any medical costs would be payable by their home country.

Do I detect an over-riding self-interest motive there?
Or is it an ageist, xenophobic problem?

 

[noseall]

I don’t personally know anyone that has ever considered retiring abroad and I know plenty that could afford to, even now. Go on, surprise me. I suppose you personally know of dozens that were planning to do so before Brexit but whose plans were scuppered because of it……

More people my age wishing they had the privileges that FOM brought folk, now seeing nothing but obstacles. Probably turkeys too, but I'm not one to rub salt.