Worked for an old lady who was befriended by someone

[purpleroad]

Sent the will and grant to an inheritance dispute lawyer or solicitor (I don't know the difference ). She wants to take up case. Thinks there are a few iffy things with it. The witnesses being too close to her being one. My issue is if it did get to court or whatever myself and the cleaner would have to be witnesses to prove she manipulated herself onto will. The manipulative lady would know I lost her £100,000 or whatever and won't be happy. I worry she will try and get revenge on me. I think you can find people's addresses if you know their full names.

The difference between the gross and net on grant means the manipulative lady must have gifted herself some money as well. According to lawyer. How do u gift money?

 

[purpleroad]

https://www.gov.uk/valuing-estate-of-someone-who-died

the Executor will issue final accounts once everything is sold, she seems very experienced given the tax situation (just under the £325k limit). the probate valuation is an estimate.

Why do you say experienced? Do you think she's done this to other old ladies? The lawyer thinks she gifted money to herself. That's why the net figure was £297,000

 

[motorbiking]

the MOL will need to produce full accounts on where the money went, but that is done at the end.. I'm assuming your legal rep, is going to contact the dis-inhereted to challenge the Will? Your job is done. The Will will stand or fall on its merits. To me the issues are the counter signature, the timing and the basis for her getting half. If it now transpires there was gift held in trust, then yeah it really does start to look dodgy as well as potential tax issue.

Legal professional is everyone who works in law (e.g. judges, solicitors, barrister)
Lawyers are the subset of all people licensed, qualified,regulated etc to do lawyering.. give legal advice
Solicitor is a type of lawyer, who does all the pre-work and haggling to avoid court, though they may also represent in lower courts.
Barrister is someone who does all the arguing and may represent in the higher courts.

If you are lucky the lawyer may pay you a finders fee.

 

[purpleroad]

OK. I will call and tell her this. I am not willing to put my name out there as involved. I get nothing for putting neck the line financially. I was so nervous about sending this info i sent it from a different throw away email with different name. So she thinks my name is different. I will call her and tell her my real name but do want my name out there in this case.

How about the cleaner who was screwed over shall I give her the option of being a witness?

 

[purpleroad]

If you asked for money to be a witness from either the nephew (beneficiary) or money off the manipulative woman to not go to court. Is any of that legal? Otherwise, it's just putting your neck on the line for nothing

 

[DaveHerns]

If you've receieved money to give evidence, your evidence will be worthless.

 

[sodthisforfun]

If you asked for money to be a witness from either the nephew (beneficiary) or money off the manipulative woman to not go to court. Is any of that legal? Otherwise, it's just putting your neck on the line for nothing

It would make you no better than the woman in question imo. Just after the dosh.

 

[motorbiking]

There is no need for a witness in this context.. The facts are clear and the disinherited person can provide all necessary input. There is nothing wrong with a finders fee, but its after the fact now, so the value of the service is worthless.

If you've receieved money to give evidence, your evidence will be worthless.

Its perfectly acceptable. Expert witnesses get paid as do ordinary witnesses if they can show expenses including loss of earnings.

Obviously hiring a straw man would be illegal. But that is about purjury

 

[sodthisforfun]

Out of pocket expenses perhaps, but it didn't sound like just that to me:

it's just putting your neck on the line for nothing

 

[DaveHerns]

Doesn't an expert witness have to testify he's an expert to the Court and not giving evidence for either party?

 

[motorbiking]

He has a duty to the court irrelevant of who is paying him: see CPR part 35.
https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part35#IDA0JICC

 

[purpleroad]

Well she manipulated herself into £149000 and gifted herself a fair bit as well. To give evidence against her and the stress which that entails-revenge from her having £100,000 taken away isn't worth doing it for nothing. Surely £10,000 each for the two witnesses would make it worth it. Off the manipulative woman or the nephew abroad who would inherit the money

 

[sodthisforfun]

Well she manipulated herself into £149000 and gifted herself a fair bit as well. To give evidence against her and the stress which that entails-revenge from her having £100,000 taken away isn't worth doing it for nothing. Surely £10,000 each for the two witnesses would make it worth it. Off the manipulative woman or the nephew abroad who would inherit the money

I wish you'd said all along that you were just after the money. £20k to be a witness is incredibly greedy and in my eyes, makes you no better than the lady in question. You're both still trying to take advantage of a dead womans money.

Money certainly does bring out the worst in people.

 

[motorbiking]

I’m not entirely sure of the point of these witnesses- they don’t appear to have witnessed anything.

 

[purpleroad]

I wish you'd said all along that you were just after the money. £20k to be a witness is incredibly greedy and in my eyes, makes you no better than the lady in question. You're both still trying to take advantage of a dead womans money.

Money certainly does bring out the worst in people.

I never thought about money but friends just hated what woman did but friends told me it's a waste of time putting neck on line for nothing. There might be revenge.


On a different note, how about checking if nephew even got his money? Give him a call or would it be impossible if he's in will for inheritance woman to not give it to him?