(Yet) More Elfin Safety nonsense
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Johnmelad502
Yes there is and it was the second one, albeit without grass.
Regardless, pray tell, with regard to the the first pic, what demon threat to the health and safety of an individual is there that could be assuaged by the wearing of a (less than three years old) hard hat? Even allowing for the fact that that is not a UK building site
If you are being told to wear a hard had in a field that is not a building site, tell the teller to go away in short sharp jerky movements!
If you are on a building site where you are required to wear a hard hat, wear it. What's the problem
What is the point of a hard hat? To protect one's head against falling objects, no?If you are on a building site where you are required to wear a hard hat, wear it. What's the problem
So, with no risk of falling objects, save for the possibility of ice off a passing 747, where is the need to wear one? There isn't. Building site, or green field.
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Johnmelad502
What is the point of a hard hat? To protect one's head against falling objects, no?If you are on a building site where you are required to wear a hard hat, wear it. What's the problem
So, with no risk of falling objects, save for the possibility of ice off a passing 747, where is the need to wear one? There isn't. Building site, or green field.
There is no such thing as no risk on a building site. We can go round and round in circles on this one and never get anywhere.
At the end of the day, if you are working on a site that requires everyone to wear a hard hat, wear it, end of story.
Totally agree! Luckily for us our manager worked on the shop floor and saw it for what it was, he just went through the motions of giving the leaflets out actually telling us at the time he thought it was bull! Our new manager, due to take over in about 6 weeks has not worked on the shop floor and basically is not a 'hands-on' type of guy. It doesn't take a genius to realise he would probably try ramming this stuff down our throats saying its legislation. Present manager has requested an exact copy of the H&S document/rule which this nameless face is 'alleged' to have plagiarized. We are still waiting, (with bated breath, NOT).
I've just remembered this corker. It was on one of those big charts you see around factories with a list of chemicals and what to do in case of an accident:
Distilled water: In case of skin contact -- Wash off with soap and water!
You couldn't make it up if you tried.
Distilled water: In case of skin contact -- Wash off with soap and water!
You couldn't make it up if you tried.
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namsag
Johnmelad will say you have and you never actaully read it or it was a local policy with nothing to do with HS but some local guy 
Shy you did say you'd be working at the top of some scaffolding there may not be a problem with stuff falling on your head once up there but you still need to get up there in the first place and when lower than the top there could well be hazards of something dropping on your head.
If there was an assessment that showed that the possibility of something dropping on ones head was small or low risk due to procedures in place then PPE such as hard hats would not be necessary, PPE is only to be used as a last resort if its not possible to remove the hazard.
If there was an assessment that showed that the possibility of something dropping on ones head was small or low risk due to procedures in place then PPE such as hard hats would not be necessary, PPE is only to be used as a last resort if its not possible to remove the hazard.
It's all ifs and ands though, isn't it.
For the vast majority of the time, the risk is so small as to be insignficant. And, should I so choose not to wear the poxy thing, then it should be my choice.
I find I smack my head more often on a scaffold when wearing those things, as the spatial awareness is up the swanny.
For the vast majority of the time, the risk is so small as to be insignficant. And, should I so choose not to wear the poxy thing, then it should be my choice.
I find I smack my head more often on a scaffold when wearing those things, as the spatial awareness is up the swanny.
which is what I was saying that if you can show reasons why a hard hat was not necessary and if worn could introduce a hazard then alls well, I successfully managed to convince my management that that was the case on our new build and was allowed to walk freely around what was still technically a building site still owned by the builders as long as I stayed in the area I was working in, I had to wear the hard hat when entering and exiting the building though due to hazards above.
But you are not understanding the responsibility the builder has for YOUR safety you have to convince them that you will be safe in carrying out your work, you can't expect him to turn a blind eye can you?
Yes I do!
I neither need nor want him to assume any mantle of responsibility for me and how I chose to assess any risks to my person.
In the same way as I don't expect him to pass comment as to the mode of transport I use to get there, be it my statistically much riskier motorbike or my swathe-me-in-cotton-wool car.
I neither need nor want him to assume any mantle of responsibility for me and how I chose to assess any risks to my person.
In the same way as I don't expect him to pass comment as to the mode of transport I use to get there, be it my statistically much riskier motorbike or my swathe-me-in-cotton-wool car.
He has no choice in the matter he is responsible for your safety, this decision has been made as there needs to be a structure of control and the site owner is usually that controller.