Hear hear
(Yet) More Elfin Safety nonsense
- Thread starter Shytalkz
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there you are then its useful! 
Thing is accidents dont always work to a time scale, you may be grateful for that extinguisher sometime in the future?
Maybe
It is a subject i feel passionate about, I can see the benefits of the system and it has helped me in several situations in the past.If ifs and ands were pots and pans, there'd be no need for tinkers.
As long as the pots and pans have a british kitemark on em
The most dangerous thing you can do today, which is part of normal life, is to get into your car and drive it.
Their are 61,000,000 people in this country.
Their were 2,943deaths on our roads last year.
Which means as a road user, you have approximately a 1 in 20,000 chance of being killed in an accident in one year......
Would you care to tell me what the odds would work out to, over a 50 year period.........
Well I have filled out an assessment form, and as of now, all road transport is to be outlawed.......
By the time I have finished all my assessments, you will need to stay in bed wrapped in bubble wrap.
Their are 61,000,000 people in this country.
Their were 2,943deaths on our roads last year.
Which means as a road user, you have approximately a 1 in 20,000 chance of being killed in an accident in one year......
Would you care to tell me what the odds would work out to, over a 50 year period.........
Well I have filled out an assessment form, and as of now, all road transport is to be outlawed.......
By the time I have finished all my assessments, you will need to stay in bed wrapped in bubble wrap.
Percentage of the whole where it has been of benefit though? Miniscule I would wager. Could you state with any certainty that had said formal load of shi'ite legislation not been in force, that the outcome of those situations would have been any different (and I don't mean from the pov of successfully prosecuting someone for a transgression).Maybe
Watch the corporate manslaughter being forcefully applied to a little geological company director in the near future. Nothing to do with justice, per se, just him being made an example of - being the first case an' all - so that we are all scared into compliance.
And of course you will have been over zealous with your assessmentsThe most dangerous thing you can do today, which is part of normal life, is to get into your car and drive it.
Their are 61,000,000 people in this country.
Their were 2,943deaths on our roads last year.
Which means as a road user, you have approximately a 1 in 20,000 chance of being killed in an accident in one year......
Would you care to tell me what the odds would work out to, over a 50 year period.........
Well I have filled out an assessment form, and as of now, all road transport is to be outlawed.......
By the time I have finished all my assessments, you will need to stay in bed wrapped in bubble wrap.
I think the lowering of speed limits is a first step in seeing if accidents reduce?As long as the pots and pans have a british kitemark on em
That's more like the Tim we know and love, in a manly way of course 
The situations i'm commenting on were where managers in the past had tried to make me do something I felt was hazardous or downright dangerous and i had support of H&S to protect me from being put into those situations.
I don't want to end up a cripple just so the job gets done a little bit quicker, i'm sure those managers would've supported and looked after me the rest of my life afterwards rather than tell me I was now as a cripple surplus to requirements.
Speaking of ties and danger ---
I watched a TV programme recently called, I think, The Fun Police. Yes, you guessed it; it was all about H&S. They took the cameras out to show us what an actual H&S inspector did.
Today he was going to a small window factory to give the staff a lecture on safe lifting. He looked around and found a suitable sized box which, we could see, was full of swarf and sawdust and God knows what else. Nothing in this lecture about COSHH then! He proceeded to demonstrate the correct way to lift the box; legs bent, back straight, etc, etc --- and his tie went straight into the rubbish. Not only that; he didn't even notice! 
On the way in, he had said to the camera, "I can see already that I'm going to need gloves, goggles and ear defenders in here".
AND A TIE CLIP YOU DUMMY!!!
I watched a TV programme recently called, I think, The Fun Police. Yes, you guessed it; it was all about H&S. They took the cameras out to show us what an actual H&S inspector did.
Today he was going to a small window factory to give the staff a lecture on safe lifting. He looked around and found a suitable sized box which, we could see, was full of swarf and sawdust and God knows what else. Nothing in this lecture about COSHH then! He proceeded to demonstrate the correct way to lift the box; legs bent, back straight, etc, etc --- and his tie went straight into the rubbish.
Not only that; he didn't even notice! On the way in, he had said to the camera, "I can see already that I'm going to need gloves, goggles and ear defenders in here".
AND A TIE CLIP YOU DUMMY!!!
You mean drinking your tea much faster and getting back to doing what you were being paid to do?!
No not my tea, making me lose my money at cards through being rushedYou mean drinking your tea much faster and getting back to doing what you were being paid to do?!
the tea was never hot enough to do damage
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Tim no one is saying HS is not required we all agree . Its the stupid stuff they keep coming up with to justify there inflated salaries .
Here is one from a mate who worked for scafffolding company.
Standing 100m back from the actual construction site ,he has to do a drawing and list everything that has been altered and what is being used.
Wee girl comes up and tells him as he is a scaffolder he must have gloves on while on site.
And how am i meant to draw and write with big gloves on he asks.
Well leave the site and sit in your car and do it
I cant see scaffolding from there .
ok spend a day re writting risk assesment on why you dont need gloves.
Or one i came across on countless sites .
occupied house people living in it i go to fit the meter and get told i need a hard hat on to do it , fekin nonsense.
Ripped jeans not allowed on site t shirt in case of sunburn hard hat on an open green field site etc etc
But someone gets paid a fortune for these fantastic ideas
The first thing about HS is common sense which is severly missing from those running the show
Here is one from a mate who worked for scafffolding company.
Standing 100m back from the actual construction site ,he has to do a drawing and list everything that has been altered and what is being used.
Wee girl comes up and tells him as he is a scaffolder he must have gloves on while on site.
And how am i meant to draw and write with big gloves on he asks.
Well leave the site and sit in your car and do it
I cant see scaffolding from there .
ok spend a day re writting risk assesment on why you dont need gloves.
Or one i came across on countless sites .
occupied house people living in it i go to fit the meter and get told i need a hard hat on to do it , fekin nonsense.
Ripped jeans not allowed on site t shirt in case of sunburn hard hat on an open green field site etc etc
But someone gets paid a fortune for these fantastic ideas
The first thing about HS is common sense which is severly missing from those running the show