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davedasave said:
cheers mate
I was told to go for 2mm (probably meant 2.5mm) because halogen lights when starting draw more current but if 1.5mm is ok i'll ok for that
The initial surge from halogen lamps is a lot higher than normal ones, which is why dimmers need de-rating if they have not been designed with halogens in mind, but it's of such short duration that it won't trouble the cable. 1.5mm² is good for 14-20A, and lighting circuits are usually on 6A breakers.
If you are planning to use ELV lighting then you do have to watch out for the cable sizes you use on the 12V side, particularly if runs are long, as volt-drop can catch you unawares long before you get to the cable capacity limit - for example 100W of 12V lighting only needs 1mm² cable to carry the load, but once you get much beyond 3m you need 4mm² cable to avoid excessive volt drop.

There's a handy calculator here: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/Lighting/VoltageDrop.html

Also what does OSG mean?
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How do you mean 'separate'
The cpc in the supply cable should be adequate.
You should have bonding to water/gas/oil pipes, size depends upon type of supply.
Shower cpc should be bonded to lighting in the vicinity of the bath/shower room. The reason for this is that although they are both connected to the Main Earthing Terminal, the resistance of the 1mm cpc will allow exposed conductive parts on the lighting circuit to be at >50v momentarily under fault conditions.

(I anticipate an augument from some sparkies over my last comment)
 
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davedasave said:
cheers mate
am i also right in thinking that i will have to run a seperate earth to the shower and cooker?
No, but you will need supplementary equipotential bonding in the bathroom.

Info is in, you've guessed it, the OSG. And Whitfield's Electrician's Guide.

If you have plastic pipes supplying your bathroom you should read this:

http://www.iee.org/Publish/WireRegs...tumn_plastic_pipes_to_bond_or_not_to_bond.pdf

These also have useful info regarding bathrooms:

http://www.niceic.org.uk/downloads/NL139supp.pdf

http://www.niceic.org.uk/downloads/E169-9.pdf

and whilst you're on their site you might as well get these:

http://www.niceic.org.uk/downloads/C5-43.pdf

http://www.niceic.org.uk/downloads/concealedcables.pdf

which explain the rules for concealing cables in walls.
 
Carloss said:
Hi,

I'm not being funny.. but i really think you should let someone who knows what there doing do it...

too save money you could buy the accessories and clear your whole house out so access is very easy... with re-wires i've done there is nothing more annoying than wasteing time moving stuff!

However if u were to go ahead and do it your self... my advice is use:

Lighting: 1.5mm2
Down/Up Ring: 2.5mm2
Kitchen Ring: 2.5mm2.... (hob?)
Shower: 6mm? (dont know A rating)
Cooker: 6mm/10mm (dont know rating)
Immersion: 1.0mm2/1.5mm2 (use flex if going to boiler... etc..)
Garden:3core 2.5mm2 Armoured?( what are you running?)
Bonding Gas, water: 10mm2 single
Supp bonding: 4mm2?

Without seeing your house i cannot say... hope it helps.

Carlos

i thaught when bonding gas and water its ment to be 16mm
 
It depends what type of supply you have i.e. TT, TN-S or TN-CS (PME). With PME it is up to the DNO to tell you what size main eq bonding to use, which could be 16mm².
 
all my work is based in london and all the time i put in 16mm for water and gas
 
And I just came across this post. I am wondering:

a) If the original poster finally called in a contractor or was successful in his ambition?
b) If the property is still standing, or has burned to the ground?
c) If the original poster would call in a contractor if he had the decision to make again?
d) If any of the circuits have tripped in the last two years?
e) If he got any or all of those books from Amazon?

Peace,
Jeff :idea:
 
Hi moderatorperson. Just a thought, there's been quite a few resurrected old posts recently.

I wonder if there's a way that you guys can lock a thread once the last post is more than, say, 6 months. that way it can be searched an viewed as reference but not continued.??
 
Please lock this thread as it is very old and regulations have changed!

Fangs very much.
 

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