I am installing some downlighters in a downstairs toilet, but it is extremely difficult to get to the lighting circuit so I am going to spur off the kitchen radial instead. There is a socket on the other side of the toilet wall. But what I am wondering is, because the downstairs toilet is not a bathroom can I mount the spur inside the toilet room directly behind the kitchen socket?
Installing light in downstairs toilet
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are you saying take it from the kitchen ring main?? i.e plug sockets.
if so you can but......
it sounds like it could be a messy job going through the wall.... what if wall crumbles.... if it's an old house?
can't you get to the wiring by pulling floor boards up above light.
what about the existing wiring.... how will you disable it?
and if you try to disable it you may take out others in the radial light circuit.... unless it is the last in the chain.
also don't forget to use a pull cord system and 1mm twin and earth.
look at the downlighter box to check for zones covered by lights.
make sure bathroom (zones 0 - 3 ) is on the box.... because of water.
if so you can but......
it sounds like it could be a messy job going through the wall.... what if wall crumbles.... if it's an old house?
can't you get to the wiring by pulling floor boards up above light.
what about the existing wiring.... how will you disable it?
and if you try to disable it you may take out others in the radial light circuit.... unless it is the last in the chain.
also don't forget to use a pull cord system and 1mm twin and earth.
look at the downlighter box to check for zones covered by lights.
make sure bathroom (zones 0 - 3 ) is on the box.... because of water.
Yes I was thinking of taking it from the kitchen circuit, though it is a radial, not a ring. Going through the wall would be the easiest (and neatest) option. It is an old house but walls are sound.
Pulling floorboards up would also mean lifting carpets, something I want to try to avoid.
Have got a pullcord and cable.
Lights are rated for bathrooms.
Pulling floorboards up would also mean lifting carpets, something I want to try to avoid.
Have got a pullcord and cable.
Lights are rated for bathrooms.
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hmmmm ..... sounds dodgy,
your kitchen should really be a ring main as the power that is consumed there is probably the highest in the house due to fridges, freezers, washing machines etc.
the cable might catch fire due to it not being a ring circuit.
i'd say 'no' to your suggestion due to this.
wait and see what other people suggest.
best option i'm afraid is the floorboards up and wire the downlighters in parallel using the existing cable and ceiling rose (if installed).
your kitchen should really be a ring main as the power that is consumed there is probably the highest in the house due to fridges, freezers, washing machines etc.
the cable might catch fire due to it not being a ring circuit.
i'd say 'no' to your suggestion due to this.
wait and see what other people suggest.
best option i'm afraid is the floorboards up and wire the downlighters in parallel using the existing cable and ceiling rose (if installed).
how many sockets and whats on them?
SAINTSIMON said:
@ OP, your best bet is to do it right, and supply the lights off a local lighting circuit. Is there currently any lighting in your WC?
Where there's a will there's a way.
Currently no lighting in there at all. I know it should come from the lighting circuit, but it a great deal of hassle and do not know if it is worth it.
It would be easier just to leave the door open for a bit of light when I go in there. Missus probably would not be too happy sitting on the throne with the door wide open mind!
It would be easier just to leave the door open for a bit of light when I go in there. Missus probably would not be too happy sitting on the throne with the door wide open mind!
Why are we talking bathroom zones? This is a WC is it not? Not a bathroom.
Why a pull cord? Again - it's a WC. You are fitting an FCU to the wall arn't you, why would you consider that ok, but not a switch?
Nothing wrong with supplying from the socket circuit, but from the lights would be far better.
SAINT - "Catch Fire" is a little strong - The circuit may well be perfectly constructed and protected correctly as a radial.
Why a pull cord? Again - it's a WC. You are fitting an FCU to the wall arn't you, why would you consider that ok, but not a switch?
Nothing wrong with supplying from the socket circuit, but from the lights would be far better.
SAINT - "Catch Fire" is a little strong - The circuit may well be perfectly constructed and protected correctly as a radial.
Yes it is simply a WC.
Fitting a pullcord rather than a switch simply through personal choice.
So a FCU inside the WC would be ok? I thought it would be but needed to check.
Do you think two 35W lamps would be sufficiant light?
Fitting a pullcord rather than a switch simply through personal choice.
So a FCU inside the WC would be ok? I thought it would be but needed to check.
Do you think two 35W lamps would be sufficiant light?
Shadows galore too!
since you're going to have to drill holes for the downlighters then it's easy enough to stick a hand up and feel for nearby wires.. one of them should be a lighting circuit..
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