heating tech said:
i have heard from jan 1st 2008 all companies will have to comply by law
What is this law called, and when was it passed?
was wondering what you guys thought about this
I think you have a chip on your shoulder.
Your opinion seems to be as reasonable, and your information as accurate, as the following statement:
On your web site said:
Unlike almost all other heating installers (including British Gas) A.C.Wilgar employ all our own staff...
Almost all others? Really? Do you realise what forum you're posting on?
tryitandsee said:
What is so wrong with people 'doing it themselves'. We have been doing it since time began. The fact we are trying to do it in the first place is probably because we enjoy doing so and get a small amount of satisfaction and sense of achievement, let alone save ourselves quite a lot of money. Most will I feel, have researched it, thought about it and be quite capable of carrying it out.
The quality of most DIY work that I see is rather poor. Some is excellent, but I've walked out of houses where the wiring has been so appalling that for me to work on the plumbing would have been too risky for me. And these are the people who are willing to let someone in their house - I don't expect to ever get to see the real shockers!
No amount of legislation will stop the complete idiot from blowing himself up, for whom these rules are supposed to target.
The evidence is to the contrary - most laws are effective deterrents to most people.
Yes, gas is dangerous, so is electricity, so is walking down the high street or crossing the road. Thankfully, DIY it is not a major threat to are health and until it starts becoming so, then we can legislate, in the mean time, let's worry about things that are.
How many people are killed annually by gas and electricity related accidents? How many does it have to be before you would regard them as major threats?
This nanny state is really starting to grate with me.
Have you written to your MP about this?
esra_ptrap said:
Without legal precedant there is absolutely no difference between this and them saying that they are only going to sell parts to white people.
I think that's rather different. There are plenty of companies who choose not to sell to the public, and there are products that are sold only to suitable licensed people. For example, do you think anyone would sell you a full set of police uniform, radio, armoury, anti-riot gear, car, blue light, siren, and warrant badge? Or do you think that the police manufacture everything they use?
JLP said:
I think the law at the moment states "the person installing C/H and servicing gas appliances should be a competent person" not corgi registered.
You think wrongly - the law states no such thing.
Timmo said:
...in the time CORGI have been in existence to improve gas safety we still compare poorly against other UK countries, including those that do not have a CORGI.
Do you have any figures to support this?
Secondly 80% (anecdotal) of boiler sales in UK are made to non registered installers. manufactures will not vote to cut sales by 80% and neither will gov support this. But fair play to Wolsey for making a stand.
If you're correct, then
Wolseley have simply given away 80% of their boiler sales to their less idealistic competitors.
If the ACS system stopped legislating and started assisting the industry and protecting consumers then this debate would become irrelevant.
It already is.
mgheating said:
If we let every punter on the street 'have a go' at installing his boiler then there would be far more accidents.
We
already let every punter have a go.
DP said:
"Corgi registered is a license to charge the public exorbitant prices as we have seen on TV, plumbers from hell." Utter rubbish. What you see is TV jornalism. Who would want to see a proffesional instead of a rogue on TV carrying out honest work. Not many I am sure
An oasis of sanity in a desert of nonsense (
apart from ChrisR and BoxBasher).