Vertical flue

[ChrisR]

Current boiler is an Apollo Fanfare, c1986.
Replacement would be complicated by needing scaffolding to get at a vertical flue. Are there any tricks or flues which make it possible to replace such a flue from inside? There's a Velux window where shown, probably 5-6ft from the flue. There is access to the loft.

 

[Agile]

If you can manhandle a roof ladder into position then you can climb out of the Velux and shin up the roof ladder?

When you come on the 22 nd then you can see my new access toy!

Tony

 

[namsag]

Men from boys springs to mind, get your ass up there chris anyone who says it can be done from inside and sealed properly is talking nonsence, And if the run is the same its even easier as tiles etc will already be cut

 

[simond]

My advice would be to save your skin and get a roofer to do the external work.

We have two roofing companies we work with and whilst they charge us about £200 a job, none of my staff is put at risk, and frankly, a roofer is better prepared for any unforeseen debacles, like broken tiles, dodgy flashing etc etc.

When we do chimney liner replacements or in certain situations I hire a 7.5t cherry picker where possible as an alternative to scaffolding, so the roof is not climbed on. Scaffolders can do damage to buildings themselves.

Some of these self drive units can reach 12m over a roof - assuming there is somewhere outside to park it. Best to do a day's IPAF certificate first.

 

[ChrisR]

I wasn't asking about how to get on the roof!
I don't personally do roofs.
I've used ladders, scaffold with lattice beams, cherry pickers & tower crane.

Access obviously could be possible through Velux with short ridge ladder but the internal route ought to have been sorted by now, it's a common problem. If roof were hipped, ladder would not be possible.
Pic makes roof access probs clearer. It's 20m up.
Red is terminal, violet Velux, green is public park up to boundary.

 

[namsag]

Well if its tiles and not slates i know how i would do it and it would not involve ladders , But it would require a vet on standby incase health and safety saw me and started having kittens.
Do at least twenty roof flues a year and pull just as many liners so i am well used to roof and height work ,
No i would not allow a roofer to do my work as it is my name signing stuff off and some of those roof terminals are easily damaged and would the roofer know he has damaged it.
But what i would say is if you dont do roofs why are you getting involved

 

[ChrisR]

I thought somebody would say that, I mean if you slipped you'd only fall through the Velux. I used to tie a rope round my waist. Haven't got one to tie a rope round these days...
For now I'm repairing the Fanfare, but if it comes to it namsag there could be a job for you down Surbiton way .

 

[Paul Barker]

Chris you've got to learn to pass on these jobs.

For one thing vertical flues can land you in a whole load of bother, more than one has been badly designed by the manufacturer but they aren't the ones who have to go up on the roof again for free to change it to the replacement model.

On which subject please nobody of th eprfessionals here fit a Buderus vertical flue, I have been up on the roof of Gibsons Court Scarborough a huge building that overlooks the North bay 5 times to reseal my work on the flue. Finally the penny has dropped. I happened to have another flue it leaks like a sieve, you can get water inside the building running down the outside of the air intake pipe, inside it and of course inside the inner flue. Now on top of Gibsons court in driving wind and rain it just chucks water into the flat. It is entirely down to the worst designed vertical flue I have ever clapped eyes on.

No more vertical flues for me end of!

 

[Agile]

I thought somebody would say that, I mean if you slipped you'd only fall through the Velux. I used to tie a rope round my waist.

Dont be tempted to tie the rope round your neck instead!

I have also noticed that Chris seems to like to take on the difficult jobs!

Tony

 

[namsag]

Chris looking at shape of the roof i hope the appolo is not on a vertex flue which was quite common around 86 . The ventilation for them is ahorrendous size and with no gable to get air bricks into

 

[mehran]

Chris you've got to learn to pass on these jobs.

For one thing vertical flues can land you in a whole load of bother, more than one has been badly designed by the manufacturer but they aren't the ones who have to go up on the roof again for free to change it to the replacement model.

On which subject please nobody of th eprfessionals here fit a Buderus vertical flue, I have been up on the roof of Gibsons Court Scarborough a huge building that overlooks the North bay 5 times to reseal my work on the flue. Finally the penny has dropped. I happened to have another flue it leaks like a sieve, you can get water inside the building running down the outside of the air intake pipe, inside it and of course inside the inner flue. Now on top of Gibsons court in driving wind and rain it just chucks water into the flat. It is entirely down to the worst designed vertical flue I have ever clapped eyes on.

No more vertical flues for me end of!

i was in scarbourgh the other week, nice place but the parking was a nightmare. it is all tall buildings which are to close together. would not go up on a roof of one no matter how much you paid me.

btw i was on heatline warranty job it was a hydro-line b24 bomber(like a vizo but with a green front and no clock)

 

[ChrisR]

Thanks for the heads-up on the Vertex flue, I'd better poke my head into the loft. This was the originally installed boiler on new-build, which means - well nothing I spose!

I have also noticed that Chris seems to like to take on the difficult jobs!

All I'm doing is changing the fan and pcb - even you could manage that Tony!

 

[Paul Barker]

Hi Mehran nice to know Heatline are being punished for not giving me a job having to send you down to Sacrbrough.

Anyway that sort of work doesn't work round here not enough boilers from these small companies to make a living but as soon as you try and start an install they are on your back to trot off 150 miles to fix one boiler for them. Dreamers.