Using door opening and converting to a arch

[clubb699]

Hi all,

Looking at the picture we would like to remove and add a archway were this door is, we are planning to go the left side by another 400mm.

The wall seems to be a studded wall along with all internal walls in my house its about (27 years old) the floor joists go from me to the window seen in picture, i would like to have a go at this myself if possible, question is will it need supporting lintels etc ?

Thanks for your time in reading.

Lee

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

If it's a stud wall chances are that it may not be, but there is still a possibility that it is.
What is above the wall, upstairs, is it carrying another wall?
Do the upstair floor joist run parallel with this wall?

 

[clubb699]

Hi PrenticeBoyofDerry,

There is another stud wall above it running the same way as the wall shown that is seperating the bedrooms upstairs, also the upstairs roof joists dont run parellel with the wall in picture.

Thanks

 

[ColJack]

i recon it's load bearing..
if the floor joists run over the top of it, do they join ther or are they continuous from outer wall to outer wall?

 

[clubb699]

Hi ColJack,

Now you got me i cant 100 percent say directly over that area, but under the landing about 1.5 meteres away to the right of the door pic i can have a look in the morning to see if there linked together or full length from wall to wall if there full length is it looking the right direction to make the mod and not install lintel maybe?

cheers

 

[ColJack]

if it's a stud wall it wouldn't be a lintle anyway, it would mean some reframing.. take out one stud and double up the ones either side of the opening..
if you need a header ( which if you're creating an arch you'd be taking out anyway), then you might have to add a high header ( ie right under the wall plate at the top ) and add jack studs ( I think that's what they're called anyway) to the sides of the arch..


I'll do a sketchup of what I mean and post it..

please note I'm a sparky and only going on what I've seen on telly shows like this old house, so advise from a professional should be sought to be certain..

 

[ColJack]

what you might have now... ( based on the framing I've seen on sites and on telly.. )

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and what you might end up with.. ( note the 2 6x2 on side at the top as a header / lintel )..

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again, this "advise" is based purely on observed framing on sites and on telly.. I'm sure someone will advise if I'm wrong.. try asking in the woorwork section ( assuming it is wood ??? )

 

[clubb699]

Hi ColJack,

Well i cant thank you anough for the time you put in to answer my question thats brilliant

It totally makes sence what you have drawn there i can work from that drawing and make it totally safe i will assess whats behind the wall and re frame as aquired.

Cheers

Lee

 

[ColJack]

It totally makes sence what you have drawn there i can work from that drawing and make it totally safe i will assess whats behind the wall and re frame as aquired.

woah!!!! hold on there...

Like I said, I'm a sparky and that's only a rough idea of what you'll probably need, I can't say for certain since I'm not an SE and we still have no idea on the loading of that wall if there is any.. ask the professionals before you start ripping walls down..

I accept no responsibility for any damage occuring from your use of any rough advise I've given on here..

 

[clubb699]

ColJack said !!!!!


can you sign on the dotted line plz.



........................................................ Sign here

Dont worry matey i got a lovely family i do not want the roof coming down on them it will be the strongest wall in the house when i finished

Lee

 

[hotrod]

Club, do you reeeeeeeeeeeaally want to form an arch? For me personally, from an aesthetic point of view, it conjures up memories of the early 80's and Hyacinth Bucket. However, the choice as they say, is yours.........

If memory serves Blue Hawk used to do DIY arch forming kits.

 

[clubb699]

Club, do you reeeeeeeeeeeaally want to form an arch? For me personally, from an aesthetic point of view, it conjures up memories of the early 80's and Hyacinth Bucket. However, the choice as they say, is yours.........

If memory serves Blue Hawk used to do DIY arch forming kits.

Thanks for that infact im undecided if to keep the arch out and leave it with square edges instead

 

[ColJack]

leave it square and fit double glass doors to them.. that way you can close it off in the winter to keep the warmth in the one room, and for a little privacy etc..
you can leave them open the rest of the time ( flat against the walls if you use the right hinges.. )

 

[clubb699]

leave it square and fit double glass doors to them.. that way you can close it off in the winter to keep the warmth in the one room, and for a little privacy etc..
you can leave them open the rest of the time ( flat against the walls if you use the right hinges.. )

Some great ideas and tips there so much to concider really thanks very much time to research doors

 

[holmslaw]

flat against the walls if you use the right hinges.. )

They're called parliament hinges.