New ceiling spot, not enuf wire holes!

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The 4 brown conductors in the centre terminal will connect into the loose connector block which you have.
The blue conductor with brown sleeving will connect into the same terminal as the brown on your light fitting, normally marked as L
The 3 blue conductors will connect into the same terminal as the blue on your light fitting, normally marked as N
The CPC's (earths) with green/yellow sleeving will connect into the middle terminal on your light fitting, normally marked as E

It looks that way but the picture is hard to untangle.
 
I assume that both lights operate from the same switch?

If you read this it will give the information for the replacement of the ceiling rose.
//www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:lighting:rose

If both lights do operate from the same switch then you will need to add (find) the cable that goes from the switch live, neutral and earth in the wiki drawing (your multi wire ceiling rose) to the live, neutral and earth at the second light.
 
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riveralt said:
I assume that both lights operate from the same switch?

If you read this it will give the information for the replacement of the ceiling rose.
//www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:lighting:rose
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Yes, there are two single switches at each end of the corridor and each works both lights together.

If both lights do operate from the same switch then you will need to add (find) the cable that goes from the switch live, neutral and earth in the wiki drawing (your multi wire ceiling rose) to the live, neutral and earth at the second light.
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I think you just surpassed my level of confidence/ability :oops:
 
I think riveralt has over complicated the matter - however it is wired you need to connect the new lamp the same as the old one.

BobTodd said:
with this new spot, which only has 3 places for wires?
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If you examine the old rose you will find that, although there are many 'holes', there are only three blocks to which the wires are connected -
plus one for the green&yellow earths which you may not need for the new light.

In the box was also a small plastic piece with a hole for a wire at each end.
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Again, one piece of metal with two (or several) holes is just one connector.
 
BobTodd said:
Could anyone point me in the right direction of how you go about replacing this ceiling rose:
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If we ignore the brown and blue flex of the lampholder.
Looks like you have:
4 browns
4 blues
and hopefully 4 CPC (earths) might be 2 X 2 cores in 1 sleeve?
So you have a blue going to the brown flex side of the fitting (that should be sleeved or marked up brown as the switch live) So mark that up. Also you have another brown cable there( this will be going to the live side of your second light) These two cables should be terminated at the live side of your new fitting.
The other three blues at blue flex side of fitting, will be neutrals (one in, one out and the third going to the second light on the neutral side)
These all belong in the neutral port on your new fitting.
Then you have three brown cables in the central loop of the current existing fitting (one in, one out, one to the switch) they should all be terminated together in the spare terminal block.
Finally all the CPCs to the earth terminal on the new fitting, all four should be sleeved green and yellow individually, not paired up in one sleeve.
That should do it!
 
PrenticeBoyofDerry said:
BobTodd said:
Could anyone point me in the right direction of how you go about replacing this ceiling rose:
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If we ignore the brown and blue flex of the lampholder.
Looks like you have:
4 browns
4 blues
and hopefully 4 CPC (earths) might be 2 X 2 cores in 1 sleeve?
So you have a blue going to the brown flex side of the fitting (that should be sleeved or marked up brown as the switch live) So mark that up. Also you have another brown cable there( this will be going to the live side of your second light) These two cables should be terminated at the live side of your new fitting.
The other three blues at blue flex side of fitting, will be neutrals (one in, one out and the third going to the second light on the neutral side)
These all belong in the neutral port on your new fitting.
Then you have three brown cables in the central loop of the current existing fitting (one in, one out, one to the switch) they should all be terminated together in the spare terminal block.
Finally all the CPCs to the earth terminal on the new fitting, all four should be sleeved green and yellow individually, not paired up in one sleeve.
That should do it!
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Cheers, I'll call up a pro (and after her, i'll ring the sparky, te-hee-hee)
 
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