9600 WATT shower - I want to have 2 fitted & advice need

So we now know that you cold tap off the stored hw and the stored cw and via a pump and mixer run a shower.

So surely it's a no brainier to do 1x shower electric and 1 x shower stored water via a pump.

Job done?
 
Give the same user a combi-powered mixer shower, and they are very likely to turn the flow rate up to much higher than they could get from an electric shower [indeed, I think that people tend to turn the flow rate up to maximum]. It is therefore quite probable that, in practice, they would use a lot more (maybe double, or even more) heating power with a combi-fuelled shower than with an electric one.
My point is that if they are prepared to tolerate the flow rate from a 9.6kW shower then they ought to be even happier with the equivalent of 15kW+ by sharing a combi.

BTW, Wilbur - if you do put 2 electric showers in then you need to make damned sure that neither will affect the water supply to the other, or make sure you get ones with proper thermostatic control, not just crude anti-scald protection.
 
My point is that if they are prepared to tolerate the flow rate from a 9.6kW shower then they ought to be even happier with the equivalent of 15kW+ by sharing a combi.
Yes, I understand that (IF one could achieve equal sharing), but I was suggesting that both simultaneous users of combi-powered showers are likley to 'turn them up full' so that, as you go on to say...
... if you do put 2 electric showers in then you need to make damned sure that neither will affect the water supply to the other, or make sure you get ones with proper thermostatic control, not just crude anti-scald protection.
... but not just that, but very careful attention to plumbing and 'matching' of the showers so that one of the two does not simply 'hog' much of the available hot water supply. That might not be a trivial exercise. I recall having that sort of problem when I inherited two mixer showers fed by a partially common feed from the hot water cylinder. Until I changed it so that they had separate feeds, one of them (I presume the closer one) always tended to 'win' in the battle for hot water!

Kind Regards, John
 
Taylertwocities, a bit late with this post ref your Aga comments. Firstly, an Aga does not do central heating, just hot water (Rayburns and Stanleys etc do HW & CH). Secondly, It would likely have been necessary to run hot water off on Christmas day as the Aga oven would produce excess heat to the water whilst cooking a turkey.
 
Ahh well, it was quite a few years ago, it may have been an "AGA" in the same way as people refer to vacuum cleaners as "HOOVERS".

Whatever, no baths on Xmas Day was the mantra
 
The good old days . Modern youth have no idea of the luxurious life they have.
Quite so. Right up until they died ~1990, one of my sets of grandparents were reliant for any 'running hot water' on a small coal-fired contraption. A bath required hours of notice...
Same at my girlfriends house, the have an oil fired boiler which they can use, but the majority of the time the heating and hot water is supplied by the Stanley which burns what even can be had for and economical price! Big old farm house, your there during the day anyway running the farm, so why not. If its just been ticking over and you want a good long shower, chuck some wood on, open the air up and get roaring, when the pipes start clanging and banging you know it time to get in the shower....


Daniel
 
...Firstly, an Aga does not do central heating, just hot water (Rayburns and Stanleys etc do HW & CH).
Ever since I saw TTC's post, I've been eagerly waiting to see if anyone would be petty enough to come up with that comment, so that I could offer them the "Pedant of the Weekend" award - a little late, but you've restored my faith in the continuing health of pedanticism!

Kind Regards, John
 
With an electric shower, the water flow rate is limited (often quite seriously) by the electrical heating power available - resulting in people often moaning that electric showers are not 'powerful enough'. This is, indeed, one of the 'cons' of electric showers which is often discussed.

Give the same user a combi-powered mixer shower, and they are very likely to turn the flow rate up to much higher than they could get from an electric shower [indeed, I think that people tend to turn the flow rate up to maximum]. It is therefore quite probable that, in practice, they would use a lot more (maybe double, or even more) heating power with a combi-fuelled shower than with an electric one [but with two, prehaps still ended up with a cold shower].
Flow limiters, thats what you want there....

Daniel
 
Flow limiters, thats what you want there....
If you want to limit the 'performance' of a mixer shower to what can be achieved by an electric one, yes - but many people would probably regard that as destroying the main advantage of having a mixer shower!

Kind Regards, John
 
But you wouldn't be limiting it to the equivalent of an electric.

It would be limited compared to a normal mixer shower, but each one would still be better than an electric.

Mind you , if it were me I'd be tempted to do this:

Shower for me: nice mixer jobbie from combi or cylinder

Shower for waster teenagers - electric jobbie, hacked so that the heating could be turned off but the flow solenoid left open. :twisted:
 
But you wouldn't be limiting it to the equivalent of an electric. It would be limited compared to a normal mixer shower, but each one would still be better than an electric.
If you managed to get 30kW out of the combi, then that would be true. If you only got, say, about 25W, I doubt that you'd notice much difference from 2 x (10kW or so) electric ones. The real pain/shame would be that you would be limiting the performance of the mixer shower to a lot less than its cababilities when you were only using one at a time (which would probably usually be the case).

Kind Regards, John
 

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