Given that the UK economy is in a catastrophic state (is it conceivable that we could follow Cyprus) and none of our political parties has the guts to administer the required medicine ( dire austerity ) for fear of falling foul of the electorate, is it time to call a moratorium on democracy and put HRH in charge for say 10 years to pull us out of the mire.
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Tongue in cheek, I think!! (Democracy is the problem)
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Well, I'd put the Royal Family to work on the counter of their local macdonalds, certainly wouldn't let them run anything. Or line them up against the wall with the labour politicians from the previous government, doesn't bother me.
But I am reckon the rest of what you say has merit. The two things which need most reform (NHS and pensions) are the areas that appear untouchable.
We are stuffed whoever gets in next, if it's Labour then things will just collapse a lot sooner. The markets are in charge of our destiny, not the politicians.
The best way forward from a 'democratic' point of view would be for some 'national government' of all the parties. Of course Labour would need a new lot as the ones in opposition now would mostly have been shot. But Labour are playing politics by criticising policies which are required, which they would implement in power, and which are a result of their criminal incompetance when they were in power. They all need to get together and force real austerity through so our children might have a fighting chance of living as well as their grand parents did.
But I am reckon the rest of what you say has merit. The two things which need most reform (NHS and pensions) are the areas that appear untouchable.
We are stuffed whoever gets in next, if it's Labour then things will just collapse a lot sooner. The markets are in charge of our destiny, not the politicians.
The best way forward from a 'democratic' point of view would be for some 'national government' of all the parties. Of course Labour would need a new lot as the ones in opposition now would mostly have been shot. But Labour are playing politics by criticising policies which are required, which they would implement in power, and which are a result of their criminal incompetance when they were in power. They all need to get together and force real austerity through so our children might have a fighting chance of living as well as their grand parents did.
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Extreme austerity would only crash the economy. What is needed is the tax loopholes closing, like the one that allows consultant doctors on £200K to pay tax on just £18K. You know the one Chappy - the one that you claim to use. 
Why when they pay for themselves - with interest?
Having a president would cost more. Much more.
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Totally agree Get rid of democracy and let's have a dictatorship. Ooh just realised, we're almost there (well that's what it seems like)
Ooh just realised, we're almost there (well that's what it seems like) Politicians lie and make promises that can't be paid for in order to get into power. The masses vote for this 'free' stuff. We long ago reached the tipping point where net consumers of taxes outnumber net contributors. The politicians will keep lying and the leaches will keep leaching until net taxpayers arebled dry. So I agree with the sentiment of the OP.
I think it would be much better to only allow people to vote if they are not in receipt of any state handouts whether housing benefit, tax credits, winter fuel allowance, child care subsidies, mortgage subsidies and on and on... That way, the people who pay for it all get to decide how much to give.
Actually, thinking about it, that probably means we need to give the vote to children and the unborn since they will be paying off the national debt.
I think it would be much better to only allow people to vote if they are not in receipt of any state handouts whether housing benefit, tax credits, winter fuel allowance, child care subsidies, mortgage subsidies and on and on... That way, the people who pay for it all get to decide how much to give.
Actually, thinking about it, that probably means we need to give the vote to children and the unborn since they will be paying off the national debt.
Raise the voting age to 25-30.
Make it so that you need to either run an obstacle course to get to the voting booth, or complete a 100 question survey (you don't have to answer correctly, just make it so you can't blatantly take the ****).
Many people couldn't be arsed to do either, and they are the people we don't want voting.
Make it so that you need to either run an obstacle course to get to the voting booth, or complete a 100 question survey (you don't have to answer correctly, just make it so you can't blatantly take the ****).
Many people couldn't be arsed to do either, and they are the people we don't want voting.
Its obvious that for decades now, under both major parties we have been living in La La land, publicly and privately spending £billions we have not earned and have no hope of paying back. An economic strategy, based on consumerism which in 2007/8 turned on us with a vengeance. Incredibly the labour solution is to borrow our way out of debt and refurbish the infrastructure. which would put more people to work earning money to buy more foreign made goods. I would like someone to explain to me how that will save the economy for our future generations. The Tories are not much better. Still borrowing £billions which they will for an indeterminate period spend on helping people buy houses, thus stoking another house price bubble.
Im no economist but I know about running a budget (houehold) The basic rules are simple :- earn £100 and spend £99 = happiness. earn £100 and spend £101 =misery.
If we continue to borrow money at the rate we are, our national debt will surpass the watershed figure of GDP. Then what will the international usurers make of that (lets not forget that governments don,t run the world, its run by the likes of Rothschilds, Goldman Sachs and Goldmiths) They will jack up our interst rates inevitably leading to another crash on the scale of Greece/Cyprus.
What are our major parties long term plans. Well they can not see past the next general election in 2015, and they will do and say anything to keep the voters sweet. with their heads burried in the sand as to the probable long term cosequences. Therefore the only solution I can see is for the patriotic non self seeking HRH to march her soldier and policemen into the house of commons. kick the lot out and take over till its sorted out. Then hand it back with new laws on the statute.whereby if the politicians let it happen again they will be done for treason for which the death penalty has been re enacted.
She will realise that goverments do not create wealth, they squander it. Entrepeneurs and businessmen create wealth. Therfore we must stop rellying on the square mile ( who are partly responible for our current parlous state) and get back to pre Thatcher days and create the conditions to start manufacturing desirable things the world wants to buy. eg Germany. This will mean encouraging people to work competitavely which can be achieved by slashing the unafordable welfare state to the safety net of being illegal to starve to death and free basic health care. Stop overpaying public and civil servants including doctors and surgeons who can earn up to 15 x the minimum wage.
Gosh !!! I think Im starting to rant now. I have lots more to say but I think i should stop before this thing gets to me and I throw this fxxxing lap top through the window in a fit of rage.
Im no economist but I know about running a budget (houehold) The basic rules are simple :- earn £100 and spend £99 = happiness. earn £100 and spend £101 =misery.
If we continue to borrow money at the rate we are, our national debt will surpass the watershed figure of GDP. Then what will the international usurers make of that (lets not forget that governments don,t run the world, its run by the likes of Rothschilds, Goldman Sachs and Goldmiths) They will jack up our interst rates inevitably leading to another crash on the scale of Greece/Cyprus.
What are our major parties long term plans. Well they can not see past the next general election in 2015, and they will do and say anything to keep the voters sweet. with their heads burried in the sand as to the probable long term cosequences. Therefore the only solution I can see is for the patriotic non self seeking HRH to march her soldier and policemen into the house of commons. kick the lot out and take over till its sorted out. Then hand it back with new laws on the statute.whereby if the politicians let it happen again they will be done for treason for which the death penalty has been re enacted.
She will realise that goverments do not create wealth, they squander it. Entrepeneurs and businessmen create wealth. Therfore we must stop rellying on the square mile ( who are partly responible for our current parlous state) and get back to pre Thatcher days and create the conditions to start manufacturing desirable things the world wants to buy. eg Germany. This will mean encouraging people to work competitavely which can be achieved by slashing the unafordable welfare state to the safety net of being illegal to starve to death and free basic health care. Stop overpaying public and civil servants including doctors and surgeons who can earn up to 15 x the minimum wage.
Gosh !!! I think Im starting to rant now. I have lots more to say but I think i should stop before this thing gets to me and I throw this fxxxing lap top through the window in a fit of rage.
What I said was that if somebody shot them it wouldn't bother me.
What I wanted was:
"Well, I'd put the Royal Family to work on the counter of their local macdonalds, certainly wouldn't let them run anything."
Getting rid of them is absolutely nothing to do with money.
Well said. I know I'd trust the Queen infinitely more than any politicians. All the Labour politicians I have heard can do nothing except criticise the Tories despite the Labour party having started all this trouble (I think they'd complain even if they promised to get the Pope to make Miliband a saint) and, as far as I'm concerned, ALL politicians (except for that nice Mr Farage, or course) are only interested in what they can get out of the situation.
This country's had it, and all I can say is I'm glad I'm not thirty or forty years younger.
Good idea. First thing I'd like see abolished is the safety card scheme for building sites and most other h&s legislation bulls*hit regarding building sites which hampers productivity..
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There's also a few government buildings I'd like to see demolished.
Here we go, Breaking news :- after absorbing the chancellors budget, credit agency Fitch puts UK economy on watch for a downgrade. What chance Osbourne's survival. They just cant see it can they. C,mon your majesty your country needs you now.
