Building wall and roof overhand - feasibility

[Totoro]

We are planning to build a two storey extension with hipped roof positioned about 150mm from our neighbour's boundary. The neighbour will not object to planning or party wall notice, but is refusing to allow scaffolding on their side for the build. The owner originally said yes, but a family member has now stepped in and refused permission on their behalf. I've said overhand build won't look so good and scaffolding would allow us to screen off the build with plastic sheeting, and offered a licence fee, but they're not interested.

Several builders advised us that it could be done overhand, but they now say it is very difficult; can't be done for H&S reasons; and would cost heaps more in terms of materials and time. I think the big issue is the roof which would protrude beyond the wall up to the legal boundary line.

Does anyone have a solution? Can a platform be cantilevered over the neighbour's land, or would this be trespass? Any thoughts much appreciated.

 

[stuart45]

Houses used to be built overhand in the North, but it is a H/S issue now.

 

[noseall]

Houses used to be built overhand in the North, but it is a H/S issue now.

As said, you can not build a roof overhand. Impossible.

Ultimately you WILL need a scaffold.

 

[stuart45]

Houses used to be built overhand in the North, but it is a H/S issue now.

As said, you can not build a roof overhand. Impossible.

The brickwork was done overhand, using trestles inside and off the joists.
Roof was pitched from the inside trestles, and tiled and glazed off ladders.
Difficult and dangerous but not impossible.

 

[eddieed]

We have recently had a garage built on the boundary line. Our neighbour is a complete c**k and would never have allowed us access (or to take their fence out in order to build the wall. One entire length of the garage 6.5 metres was built overhand. The roof was put on from the inside of the building and felted, battened and slated without any tresspass. The hardest part was fitting the gutters but as we have a projecting header course and metal gutter hangers on our house (rather than facias and soffits) the builder just fitted the gutters on that side prior to putting the roof on.

The brick work is as good as any other part of the build.

 

[stuart45]

I worked on houses in the 60's which were done using those methods.
The men who worked on them were used to working like that, so the job got done.
However I've lived down South for many years now and would never think of building without a scaffold.

 

[noseall]

How the fook do you felt, batten and tile a roof from the inside?
Are you guys on about the building trade or some kind of Japanese game show?
I don't think I've heard anything so stupid in my life.

Tile a roof off a ladder?

FFS!

 

[stuart45]

You don't felt, batten and tile from the inside. Just cos you have never seen it done does not mean it hasn't been done. Tilers often used to do roofs without a scaffold. I guess you never did site work in the 60's.

 

[eddieed]

How the fook do you felt, batten and tile a roof from the inside?
Are you guys on about the building trade or some kind of Japanese game show?
I don't think I've heard anything so stupid in my life.

Tile a roof off a ladder?

FFS!

I didn't say they felted and battened it from the inside just that they built the roof from the inside that is as you say impossible. However what I do know is that the wall is built on the boundary and at no point did they put any form of ladder or scaffold on next doors land in order to felt, batten and slate the roof!

 

[noseall]

So what you muppets are saying is that the guy will still have to pitch up ladders onto next doors' property in order to complete the roof!

As I said anyone reading this, if you need permission for ladders you may as well ask your neighbour if you can erect a scaffold. And have it from the outset!

 

[noseall]

I didn't say they felted and battened it from the inside just that they built the roof from the inside that is as you say impossible!

No. What i said was building a roof i.e. tiling etc is impossible overhand.

 

[stuart45]

So what you muppets are saying is that the guy will still have to pitch up ladders onto next doors' property in order to complete the roof!

You are the muppet noseall. What I said was that houses have been built without erecting a scaffold, which they have. Whether or not that is a good method is beside the point.

 

[stuart45]

How the fook do you felt, batten and tile a roof from the inside?

FFS!

You ask this question, then say all you said is how do you tile a roof overhand, not how do you from inside.