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After their conduct during the miners strike, after they caused the Hillsborough disaster and blamed the fans to save their own skins. Now this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31859931
If they were a private company they would have been out of business long ago.
NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.
 
During the miners' strike the problem was not the local police force, it was the Met being shipped up north.

The local coppers understood what was happening - the Met looked on it as a bit of northerner bashing!
 
After their conduct during the miners strike, after they caused the Hillsborough disaster and blamed the fans to save their own skins. Now this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31859931
If they were a private company they would have been out of business long ago.
NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.

I suspect that the vast majority of the coal face troops feel the same way about all these things. It is the senior officers who are to blame and it is they who manage to escape seemingly unscathed much of the time.
 
During the miners' strike the problem was not the local police force, it was the Met being shipped up north.

The local coppers understood what was happening - the Met looked on it as a bit of northerner bashing!

Not altogether true as many of The Met were themselves from mining areas including Scotland and Wales.

If you think The Met is full of cockneys then nothing could be further from the truth!
 
After their conduct during the miners strike, after they caused the Hillsborough disaster and blamed the fans to save their own skins. Now this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31859931
If they were a private company they would have been out of business long ago.
NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.

we also need to remember thatcher gave the police an inflation busting pay rise to get them on side in preparation knowing she was going to confront the miners long before she took on the miners
the police where only puppets off there masters in the miners dispute
you can off course argue the same about the miners??
 
Not altogether true as many of The Met were themselves from mining areas including Scotland and Wales.

I'm intrigued - can you quantify what proportion of the Met officers were from mining areas back in the early 80's?
 
Not altogether true as many of The Met were themselves from mining areas including Scotland and Wales.

I'm intrigued - can you quantify what proportion of the Met officers were from mining areas back in the early 80's?

Sorry newboy but I can't give you precise figures. What I can say is that (from knowledge) The Met of that period comprised a majority of 'non-Londoners' with a significant number coming from South Wales, Central/Easten Scotland, Yorkshire and The North East.

Perhaps I should clarify by saying that I didn't mean they were all from mining 'communities' but many of them did originate from what were mining 'areas' and often had relatives who worked or had worked in coal mining.

I often think that the public perception of police officers is that they are all ultra-Tory. In fact, many hold the opposite view having hailed from areas with a strong heavy industry (and trades union) history.

Of course there will always be (sadly) the 'bully boy' types who will use any excuse for unnecessary violence but there are always many officers who have sympathy with the cause(s) of any dispute having been born and bred in areas now decimated by the government politics of the time.

During the miners' strike, as per usual, only the 'bad' actions hit the press but I can tell you that there were many 'good' actions performed by officers posted to mining areas. The press never reported things like the 'food parcels' and 'whip rounds' for the miners' families but then I suppose that doesn't sell papers.

Don't get me wrong, there were 'bad apples' and the whole idea of deploying police officers who were only trained in riot tactics to an industrial dispute was a massive error.

I was merely trying to point out that the image of The Met being full of Londoners and Home Counties English heading North to do 'Northener Bashing' wasn't the truth of it.

The Met has always recruited all over The UK until recently when it announced it now only wants 'Londoners'.

Personally, IMHO, I think that recruitment decision is a big mistake.

B
 
It was in response to:
until recently when it announced it now only wants 'Londoners'.

Given the population of London, it follows that a Londoner favoured over a non-Londoner is likely to result in discrimination against a white person.

Of course, it could be just a ploy to increase the ethnic minority percentage of the Met. which the ethnic minorities do not seem too keen to achieve thenselves.
 
It was in response to:
until recently when it announced it now only wants 'Londoners'.

Given the population of London, it follows that a Londoner favoured over a non-Londoner is likely to result in discrimination against a white person.

Of course, it could be just a ploy to increase the ethnic minority percentage of the Met. which the ethnic minorities do not seem too keen to achieve thenselves.

There is more to it than the above-mentioned ploy which I won't bore you with by expanding on here. Suffice to say the article below explains their reasoning.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-28289956
 
It was in response to:
until recently when it announced it now only wants 'Londoners'.

Given the population of London, it follows that a Londoner favoured over a non-Londoner is likely to result in discrimination against a white person.

Of course, it could be just a ploy to increase the ethnic minority percentage of the Met. which the ethnic minorities do not seem too keen to achieve thenselves.

So it could either be to encourage white applicants, or on the other hand, non white applicants.
 
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