Painting new plaster

[mika_98]

Hello all,

I have been doing a little research and just wanted some reassurance from experts/professionals. The new plaster that will need painting is in the living room, kitchen and bathroom ceiling.

I have been advised and read that contract matt emulsion is best and to dilute with water at 50:50. Is that correct? Also, how long for drying this mist coat?

Also, which paints are best/higher quality? And can I use the same paint for the bathroom and kitchen ceiling?

Look forward to your replies : )

Thanks!

 

[misterhelpful]

Have a read of this:

//www.diynot.com/diy/threads/mist-coat-or-pva-bare-surface-basics.425261/

Within the trade, acrylic eggshell is the first choice for bathrooms and kitchens followed by specific 'kitchen and bathroom' paints, which are effectively just a weaker version of the eggshell.

 

[joe-90]

Best using a diluted coat of whatever the top coat will be. You can't go wrong then.

 

[mika_98]

Hi there,
Thanks very much for the informative link. So a non-vinyl contract emulsion is what I will go for to begin with. Any brands in particular that stand out better than others?

 

[joe-90]

No. You do as I told you or you will have to do ANOTHER mist coat when you change paints. Do what the manufacturers tells you.

 

[blightymam]

Nah, using a non-vinyl as a mist coat is the best thing, then you can paint whatever finish on top without a worry.

 

[misterhelpful]

Hi there,
Thanks very much for the informative link. So a non-vinyl contract emulsion is what I will go for to begin with. Any brands in particular that stand out better than others?

There are loads on the market but try to avoid retailers' own brands and pick a decent one - Leyland, Dulux SuperMatt, Johnstone's, Glidden/Armstead are all fine. Don't worry, you don't have to do another mist coat with your finishing paint - us pro painters use contract matt for misting on a daily basis and then apply the following topcoats without any issues - some DIYers use vinyls, which are still suitable but more prone to peeling if used this way.

Wait for it!

 

[blightymam]

No. You do as I told you or

Why does that feel like being told off by a strict school headmaster?
Joe, manners please, they cost nothing!

 

[joe-90]

If you won't see sense and listen to the manufacturers then good luck with that one. Manners have nothing to do with it. Got fook all to do with you anyway.

 

[blightymam]

Got fook all to do with you anyway.

Ooooh, school headmaster strikes again! Don't speak unless spoken too huh?

Actually, I think it does have a little to do with me. I'd hate for the OP to think that we all throw our toys out the pram if our advice isn't listened to or acknowledged. There's more than one way to skin a cat you know, and while manufacturers do print their guidelines on the back of a tin, you can also take on board sound advice from other professional painters and decorators with years of valuable experience and do it their way too.

Doesn't have to be a peeing competition.

 

[joe-90]

So you think the manufacturers offer duff advice? You'd rather listen to some DIYer on a forum? That's why there are so many 'paint peeling' problems on here. Idiots giving out duff advice contrary to the instructions of the manufacturer.

 

[misterhelpful]

So you think the manufacturers offer duff advice? You'd rather listen to some DIYer on a forum? That's why there are so many 'paint peeling' problems on here. Idiots giving out duff advice contrary to the instructions of the manufacturer.

There's only one DIYer on here who gives duff advice, and every member knows who it is.

The truth is that you don't like it when somebody gives advice, taking time to make a real effort to help people, and doesn't just bark out one sentence orders that comply with your methods.

@mika_98

Don't worry, joe-90 ALWAYS causes this type of argument!

 

[blightymam]

Joe, did I say manufacturers give duff advice? Perhaps try reading what I wrote. If you're having trouble, the phase 'more than one way to skin a cat' means that it doesn't have to be done one way to be successful. Pro painters know this, but they would've learned the better way of being on the job and seeing what works.

And I don't suppose any manufacturers out there would ever be guilty of only recommending their own product purely to make more money... or would they? The cads.

 

[misterhelpful]

And I don't suppose any manufacturers out there would ever be guilty of only recommending their own product purely to make more money... or would they? The cads.

Good one!

 

[mika_98]

Oh, this thread has, errm.... developed!

Just to add some further background, after having conversations with local diy'ers (but not professionals), I was swaying more towards using using a diluted white emulsion for various reasons - 1) A initial coat of white paint would clearly show any imperfections in the plaster. 2) It'd be a cost effective means of applying the first coat/s of paint, rather than having to use several coats of our desired (and more costly) colour.

As it turns out, after reading information in the link provided, a non-vinyl contract matt would be ideal! Allowing the plaster to 'breathe'. Thus, if there are any underlying drying issues (which the builder seems to now have suspicions of), this type of paint will really help.

So, I'm very glad I posted on here for advice Thanks again.