After some advice re balcony removal, if works is under permitted development, do we have to have drawings? Or can we just have the builders in and get it checked by BC?
TIA cgas.
TIA cgas.
Balcony removal
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To paint a picture, can't get a picture as its dark, however balcony is built into house.
It's built over our lounge, I want the balcony taken out and the room that leads onto the balcony extended right the way out to where the lower external wall is, basically I've had a few people out and they seem to um/err about wether it'll be under PD or may require planning, technically it's not altering the shape or size of the house. We also do not know if there is a current rsj holding the balcony up and if it'll take the cavity block wall (& is there any way of knowing without physically removing the cladding & looking). It's currently cladded over with white pvc. So after its blocked it will be rendered.
It's built over our lounge, I want the balcony taken out and the room that leads onto the balcony extended right the way out to where the lower external wall is, basically I've had a few people out and they seem to um/err about wether it'll be under PD or may require planning, technically it's not altering the shape or size of the house. We also do not know if there is a current rsj holding the balcony up and if it'll take the cavity block wall (& is there any way of knowing without physically removing the cladding & looking). It's currently cladded over with white pvc. So after its blocked it will be rendered.
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I would hazard that planning would view the front wall as ................ a front wall and if would expect a planning application.
Updated OP to show how it is currently if that helps in any way. So what your saying is you need planning permission to alter a front wall usually?
Nope sorry, at the moment this is an idea and we're waiting to start works but unsure if we need permission to start which would be a pain in all honestly but if it has to be done.
I've further rung planning today who have generously told me if I pay £90 for a 192 they will let me know if I need planning permission or not. I'd sooner just apply and save myself the £90 if that's the case.
I dare say some other opinions shall be added .....
I'm not sure, but I think it's PD. Here's why I think so:
My understanding is that the enclosure of a recessed porch in an elevation facing a highway is permitted development - which is why LPA's sometimes curtail this right by virtue of an article 4 direction.
What you're proposing is essentially the same thing, albeit at first floor level.
That said, the local authority might not agree with me. While they might not necessarily be right, if you think they're nonetheless likely to grant permission then you might as well submit a planning application.
On the other hand, if you think they're likely to refuse such an application, then I'd be tempted to get a legal opinion to clarify the matter - unless anyone else here knows for a fact that what you're proposing does (or doesn't) fall within permitted development.
My understanding is that the enclosure of a recessed porch in an elevation facing a highway is permitted development - which is why LPA's sometimes curtail this right by virtue of an article 4 direction.
What you're proposing is essentially the same thing, albeit at first floor level.
That said, the local authority might not agree with me. While they might not necessarily be right, if you think they're nonetheless likely to grant permission then you might as well submit a planning application.
On the other hand, if you think they're likely to refuse such an application, then I'd be tempted to get a legal opinion to clarify the matter - unless anyone else here knows for a fact that what you're proposing does (or doesn't) fall within permitted development.
Appreciate the advice, can I ask who I'd seek legal advice off to clarify ? Would it be via the 192 paperwork they're already sending out (after I cheekily asked on the phone if he could look at streetview and give me an answer on the phone
) or can I get a definite answer from elsewhere? If so where? Thankyou again.
Nakajo, I'd also like to know who's legal opinion he should seek?
A planning lawyer would be able to provide such an opinion. They're not cheap, and they may view it differently, which is why I suggest it only if you think the work is likely to meet with resistance from the LPA.
A planning lawyer would know 100% for sure? And would they tell you they knew 100% for sure or not before or after they'd charged £500 for the privilege?
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there is a lot to be said for driving around and looking for similar houses where this has been done
I'm not really sure how I tell if it's been done though or do you mean in our local area? If so every house on the street is different I've asked the neighbours if they've ever had anything similar which they haven't and 2 of them have been in the houses since they were built (either side)
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