Deaths due to electricity in UK
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Two additions of meaningless events in 2005 and 2013:
Indeed so - as I wrote "There is a fairly clear downward trend in these figures throughout the 2001 - 1017 [sic!] period but, for what it's worth, no particularly obvious change in the trend after 2005.".
However, as was really the point of the exercise, I don't imagine that (m)any of the people here are in any way surprised by that!
Kind Regards, John
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That's a rather different question, since the answer to that one very much depends upon factors relating to you!
Kind Regards, John
Sorry, couldn't resist:
It looks as if we need more financial crashes and ill-considered referenda!I think that one of the reasons for the yo-yo-ing fluctuations of the graph (in addition to 'pure chance') is that, over the years, there has been (backwards and forwards) inconsistency as to whether the data to which I have access records data in terms of date of death or date of registration of the death. Largely as a consequence of the holiday period, a substantial proportion of deaths occurring in December do not get registered until January of the next year. If the data for one year relates to dates of death, and that for the next year relates to dates of registration (or vice versa), that can result in quite an effect on the apparent figures.
Whilst we are talking of "couldn't resist", below I attempt to put these England and Wales 'electrical deaths'figures into some perspective (I've started it in 2006 because the data available to me for earlier years lumps together deaths involving beds and deaths involving chairs). I leave it to you to theorise about what happened in 2015 to result in a marked increase in deaths due to falls involving beds (and, to a lesser extent, chairs)
....Kind Regards, John
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EddieM
Red & green possibly due to ageing demographic, blue looks on the face of it a statistically insignificant in it's standard deviation.
That's probably a factor, although the age distribution of the population will not have changed that much over an 11-year period. In fact, the rather 'outlying' figures for 2015 (for all three curves) make the changes look quite lot more than they quite probably are. If one removes them, it looks like this ...
There are, of course, some very relevant demographic factors in the comparison, but there really are far too few events (deaths), particularly 'electrical' deaths, for a formal look at (age/sex) sub-groups to be sensible. However, as one might expect, the figures show that the electrical' deaths were predominantly in younger males, whereas deaths due to falls involving beds and chairs were mainly in much older people, predominantly female.
That depends on what you mean. The downward trend in 'electrical etc.' deaths during the period 2001-2017, as shown in the graph in post #31, is highly statistically significant (p<0.01).
However, which such small numbers of events (4-5 deaths per 10,000,000 people), one clearly has to exercise considerable caution in drawing any conclusions - it's probably better to simply observe that, during that 16-year period, there were never more than 7 deaths per 10,000,000 kin any year - and (because of the nature of the data available to me) probably half of even those few deaths were quite probably nothing to do with electricity.
Kind Regards, John
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EddieM
difference of 1(?) min to 7 max per 100k means, as you point out, it is completely unsafe to draw any credible conclusions.
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EddieM
Your graph seems to show per 10M?
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EddieM
Oh, yes sorry, thought you'd said 10,000. My mistake (makes it even more tenous to draw any conclusion).
No problem.
Quite so. 7 in 10 million, let alone 1 in 10 million (or the difference between '1 in 10million' and '7 in 10million') is what many people would probably say is 'as close to zero as makes no difference".
I realise that we're talking about human lives, and that 'one death is one death too many', but there comes a point at which the numbers are so small that one probably has to be dispassionate. We are, after all, talking about figures which are probably only one order of magnitude greater than those for death by being struck by lightning (around 0.3 per 10 million per year) (or many other very obscure, and very rare, causes of death).
Kind Regards, John
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