UK Policy of tackling covid through herd immunity

[Notch7]

the UK has 6.6 critical care beds per 100,000 population - way below the European average of 11.5

there are 4123 ICU beds available in England
3,423 are occupied
(Jan 2020)

700 beds available

 

[Brigadier]

This is straight from the mind of Cummings. Let people die.

You are presuming / hoping a vaccine becomes availabl , and widely so.
If not, herd immunity is all we have left.
Otherwise, we're just postponing the inevitable pile of bodies.....

 

[Doug99]

The Welsh NHS have just announced that all non urgent surgery / outpatient appointments are to be cancelled from Monday. This will give them time to prepare for the expected influx of coronovirus patients.

 

[Notch7]

WHO says UK policy is wrong:

 

[Doug99]

"Vaccines, he said, were a much safer way of bringing it about (herd immunity)"

But there isn't a vaccine available yet......hence the UK's current strategy.

 

[Bodd]

Go into total shutdown, everybody stay at home, except army and volunteers to deliver food

What about emergency plumbers

 

[Brigadier]

"Vaccines, he said, were a much safer way of bringing it about (herd immunity)"

But there isn't a vaccine available yet......hence the UK's current strategy.

In other words, he's spouting shoite.

 

[Bodd]

the UK has 6.6 critical care beds per 100,000 population - way below the European average of 11.5

Most of Europe haven't had mass immigration the last 15 years

 

[Brigadier]

the UK has 6.6 critical care beds per 100,000 population - way below the European average of 11.5

Both of which are about as much use as a fart in a colander, in the face of a global pandemic.

 

[Doug99]

The Italians have one of the highest number of care beds in Europe and they are still having to treat critical patients in temporary accomodation and camp beds.
Another reason why the UK is following the strategy that we are to dampen the epidemic curve.

 

[Notch7]

Another reason why the UK is following the strategy that we are to dampen the epidemic curve

Or is it this

 

[JohnD]

See my new thread

 

[SirGalahad]

I'm saying we may not follow the same trajectory. Maybe the message got out quicker here.

If that's the case then why were the scientists saying we are a few weeks behind Italy trajectory?

 

[SirGalahad]

In Manchester all not urgent elective surgery has been stopped from Monday and they will be doubling their ICU capacity.

It's pretty shambolic Trusts have not been given emergency funding, and direction what to do. Without a coordinated approach there will be significant mortality differences by each trust depending on what actions they have taken.

 

[SirGalahad]

How many ICU units do you think they should make available?

As many as the Government is willing to fund. Currently Trusts are doing it themselves, this supposed extra money has not come through.

Too many are in denial about the severity of this pandemic.