Rawl Plugs for 6kg Mirror in Bathroom

[chenks]

Hi

i've got a mirror to put up on a bathroom wall.
wall is plasterboard (hollow behind i believe, internal wall).
mirror weighs about 6kg, so is reasonably heavy, and in the orientation will have 2 mount points on each top corner (it's wide and thin).

so looking to know which rawl plugs/screws i need to secure this to the wall.

photo attached of what the mounting brackets look like

 

[foxhole]

Simple plasterboard fixing should surfice assuming it’s hollow partition wall.

https://www.screwfix.com/c/screws-nails-fixings/plasterboard-fixings/cat840020

 

[chenks]

i believe it is hollow, however it was the weight of the mirror that concerned me.
it's wide and quite heavy, around 6gk i believe.

also, the screw head being big enough to fit the mount on the mirror

 

[JohnD]

find the position of the wooden studs in the wall that the plasterboard is nailed to, and get at least one screw in a stud. If necessary you can run a batten behind the mirror fixed to one or more studs, and screw the mirror into that.

Often you can detect the stud position by looking or feeling for tiny dimples or spots showing through the decoration, or tapping with your knuckles. Otherwise, drill a hole through the wall where you think a screw should go, and feel through it with my Special Tool (£50 plus p&p). If no stud there, form the Special Tool into a shallow curve and push it through the hole so that it travels sideways, first to one side, then the other. When it meets a stud, mark the distance, withdraw the Special Tool and mark the wall at the same distance so you know where to drill.

 

[JohnD]

Special Tool


My price £50



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Special Delivery £15 extra.

 

[chenks]

attaching to studs isn't an option as the placement of the mirror means the corners (where the mounts are) aren't where the studs are.

 

[JohnD]

how far apart are the studs, and how wide is the mirror?

 

[chenks]

the mirror is about 4 feet wide, but need to be placed centered above the radiator, so the corners of the mirror don't match up with any studs.
if i was just placing the mirror anywhere on the wall then studs would be fine, but because it needs to be specifically placed then it doesn't work.

 

[JohnD]

If the mirror is 4 ft wide, it is pretty sure to span at least two studs, possibly three. So you can cut a horizontal batten to the width of the mirror, top and bottom, and screw it to the studs, which will hold the weight, and screw your mirror through the batten, which will prevent it tilting. This will prevent the heavy mirror wrenching the screws out of the plasterboard.

If I interpret your photo correctly, the mounting bracket is a version of a keyhole fastener, so you can lift it onto the screws and it is intended to space the mirror slightly off the wall.

 

[foxhole]

6kg is not heavy , single plasterboard fixing will hang 10kg.

 

[chenks]

If the mirror is 4 ft wide, it is pretty sure to span at least two studs, possibly three. So you can cut a horizontal batten to the width of the mirror, top and bottom, and screw it to the studs, which will hold the weight, and screw your mirror through the batten, which will prevent it tilting. This will prevent the heavy mirror wrenching the screws out of the plasterboard.

sorry, that's not a route we will be going down.

If I interpret your photo correctly, the mounting bracket is a version of a keyhole fastener, so you can lift it onto the screws and it is intended to space the mirror slightly off the wall.

that's correct, the mirror will hang off the screw that is in the rawl plug.

6kg is not heavy , single plasterboard fixing will hang 10kg.

so this will be sufficient?
https://www.screwfix.com/p/rawlplug-uno-wall-plug-6mm-300-pack/44708

obviously i'd also need the applicable screws to match it.

i'm just worried that the weight of the mirror hanging on the screw will pull it down and eventually out the plasterboard, as the mirror will not be screwed into the rawl plug but essentially hanging off the screw.

 

[johnny2007]

Move the hooks on the mirror to match the position of the studs

 

[chenks]

Move the hooks on the mirror to match the position of the studs

whilst i appreciate all repsonses, can i just get the advice i asked for? which is specifically about which rawl plugs i need.
i'm not going to pull off the glued on brackets (weakening them in the process) on the back of the mirror just so it matches a stud position.

 

[johnny2007]

Glued on brackets???
No matter what glue it's been used, it will fail given time, temperature and humidity changes.
So your last worry should be the fixings.
Get some proper brackets/rings,hooks and SCREW them into the mirror frame with appropriate screws.
Besides, if you really trust those glued on brackets, use plasterboard fixing; they're strong enough to hold well over 6 kg

 

[johnny2007]

These:

https://www.screwfix.com/p/fischer-...VjevtCh1S1wMMEAQYCiABEgKnrvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Or these (hold up to 74kg each)

https://www.gripitfixings.co.uk/products/gripit-red