More new rules for wearing facemasks

[IT Minion]

I hope so .

New Zealand locks down again.

An NZ reporter on R5L this morning said that the people won't keep putting up with lock downs, each and every time another case (or four) is identified.
He even mused over whether Sweden had it right all along.

One significant thing the 'why bother at all' crowd seems to miss is that we're still learning how to treat Covid-19. It's roughly 25-30% less lethal now than it was in March thanks to Dexamethasone.

Pushing future outbreaks to the right is a very good thing.

 

[conny]

It seems to me there are certain members on this site who are very fortunate to have internet access under their bridges, where they don't come into contact with normal people, so don't see the point in wearing a mask.

 

[Trazor]

why bother at all crowd.

Or, as they all known " Contestants in a Darwin's theory award competition"

 

[Brigadier]

Or, as they all known " Contestants in a Darwin's theory award competition"

No ; that'll be the idiots who a. "wear" a face covering (it's not mask) around their chin, or under their nose, or b. those who constantly fiddle with it, transferring any potential virus particles to their hands anyway, or c. those who, by wearing a [mask] have now decided to ignore the very thing that smothered the virus in the first place (where have all of those one way markings and social distance reminders gone anyway?)

 

[EFLImpudence]

It's because very little of what we are told makes sense. The excuse is it is a new virus - but it is A virus.

Either viruses can go through masks no ways, one way or both ways or they can't. If they can then they always could.

Could the discovery that masks now protect the wearer, as well as others from the wearer, be because not enough people are wearing masks and you need frightening more?


Lockdown hasn't worked in Britain unless you think that without it the situation would be even worse than worst (apart from Belgium) so now it's masks.

 

[sodthisforfun]

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[IT Minion]

It's because very little of what we are told makes sense. The excuse is it is a new virus - but it is A virus.

Either viruses can go through masks no ways, one way or both ways or they can't. If they can then they always could.

Could the discovery that masks now protect the wearer, as well as others from the wearer, be because not enough people are wearing masks and you need frightening more?

Viruses range in size from 5nm to 300nm. Bigger ones will be easier to filter.

Viruses range in survivability, some die very quickly out of the body, others persist for weeks.

Lockdown hasn't worked in Britain unless you think that without it the situation would be even worse than worst (apart from Belgium).

It would be even worse. Before lockdown the r rate was 3 or 4. We were filling the hospitals and hundreds were dying a day. Without lockdown we'd have continued that trend for a few weeks more before we'd have had the informal lockdown happen (concerts and matches were already being cancelled before the official lockdown was announced).

 

[EFLImpudence]

The figures do not support that.

 

[IT Minion]

The figures do not support that.

What don't they support? What figures?

 

[Ryler]

What don't they support?

this...

It would be even worse.

 

[Ryler]

Lockdown hasn't worked in Britain

Correct.
But trashing the economy has been very effective.
We are now officially in a recession.

 

[JohnD]

Either viruses can go through masks no ways, one way or both ways or they can't.

You omit the possibility that the virus is carried on water droplets expelled by the mouth and nose, which can be captured by a mask.

And also the possibilty that a mask can reduce transmission by a number greater that 0% and less than 100%, and still provide a benefit.

 

[ellal]

There are figures out there that claim that for every three deaths of people with covid (not necessarily because of), two additional avoidable deaths were caused by the consequences of lockdown...

At some point that ratio will reverse, probably at the onset of winter...

So what will have been achieved?

Death is death, whatever the cause!

 

[EFLImpudence]

You omit the possibility that the virus is carried on water droplets expelled by the mouth and nose, which can be captured by a mask.

And also the possibilty that a mask can reduce transmission by a number greater that 0% and less than 100%, and still provide a benefit.

Then why did the experts not realise that before?

 

[Ryler]

You omit the possibility that the virus is carried on water droplets expelled by the mouth and nose, which can be captured by a mask.

Only if you are sneezing.