The UK is secretly testing a controversial web snooping tool

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All that will happen is consumers will use end to end encryption via VPNs. It’s not the government you necessarily have to fear it’s the foreign actors and hackers who will steel the database from the government
 
French politicians, high-profile intellectuals and journalists are warning that progressive American ideas — specifically on race, gender, post-colonialism — are undermining their society. “There’s a battle to wage against an intellectual matrix from American universities,’’ warned Mr. Macron’s education minister.
 
A group of NGOs on Wednesday threatened the French state with a class-action lawsuit over racial profiling by the police during ID checks, a longstanding complaint among French people of colour. Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and four other groups gave the government four months to act to end the "discriminatory identity checks" or face legal action..
FRANCE...Hugely racist.
 
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motorbiking said:
All that will happen is consumers will use end to end encryption via VPNs. It’s not the government you necessarily have to fear it’s the foreign actors and hackers who will steel the database from the government
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Yeah I agree - I worry more about the unscrupulous use of data being misused: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook–Cambridge_Analytica_data_scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Madison_data_breach. Peoples personal conversations with people they were "having affairs" with became publicly exposed
 
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I first became aware of 'Echelon' in the early 80's.

They've been monitoring our activities for years & even despite things like the Snowden leaks folk just don't believe it.

In 1998 a rep was demonstrating to me a call centre phone system for 1000+ seats & up to 30 000 incoming lines. They had an option that told you the height & weight of the caller within 30secs of conversation that was 90%+ accurate. Why? I don't know.

Read Peter Wright's book 'Spycatcher', the book they famously tried to ban . . . But NOT for the reason they wanted to bury . . .
 
Vinty said:
What does British mean these days?
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Xenophobic, backward looking, and with an erroneous superiority complex?

But at the same time willing to be shafted by the elite?

I have a feeling the word you are looking for is 'stupid'!
 
Dork Lard said:
I first became aware of 'Echelon' in the early 80's. They've been monitoring our activities for years & even despite things like the Snowden leaks folk just don't believe it.
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I hope you realize DL that nobody here really believes you're a painter and decorator, as know far too much. More like you're a CIA agent or MI5 agent :)
Dork Lard said:
In 1998 a rep was demonstrating to me a call centre phone system for 1000+ seats & up to 30 000 incoming lines. They had an option that told you the height & weight of the caller within 30secs of conversation that was 90%+ accurate.
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I wonder how in the world they work that out from a simple phone call? The system could tell their sex and approximate age from the phone call tone
 
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If you think everyone will dive into secure encryption over VPN's then you in cloud cuckoo land.

I have an original copy of the software 'Pretty Good Privacy' (PGP). This is the last stable version that takes their most powerful supercomputers approx 1-2hrs to crack, before the US classified it as a military grade weapon & tortured the developers into submission.

Every single encryption program that us the public are aware of since then has a backdoor written in.

Before anyone bothers to mention 'the dark net' please be aware that the CIA IS the dark net.

Can anyone think why they're doing all this surveillance??? Go on, put your tin hats on & hazard a guess.
 
Mottie said:
What country was it whose government blew up the Greenpeace ship? I think they also sold a missile to the Argies that killed our boys out in the Falklands. Some UK haters go out there to live because they can get cheap frogs legs and snails. Let me think......
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exactly

The French for you ;) going around blowing up ships

flogging arms to a facist regime ;)

probably sent technicians to Argentina for the Exocet missile and did some up grades to it when they found out the brits were sending a task force there ;)

scoundrels
 
teaboyjim said:
I hope you realize DL that nobody here really believes you're are a painter and decorator, as know far too much. More like you're a CIA agent or MI5 agent :)
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A relationship gone wrong cost me my first empire, an injury forced my retirement from the tools. Remember Abbie Humphreys? I was working with her dad the day before & that was my last involvement in P&D.

I made my 2nd fortune in computers, specifically in network security. I tipped my desk over in 2002 & invested my fortune in property . . . .
 
teaboyjim said:
- Yeah I agree with what motorbiking says - I worry more about the unscrupulous use of data being misused such as Facebook handing over all it's data to Cambridge Analytica.

Here is a real world simple example of why leaving your information around can be dangerous: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Madison_data_breach. Peoples personal conversations with people they were "having affairs" with became publicly exposed which leads to divorce, suicide, children's lives being damaged. Perhaps they shouldn't have been looking for an affair but does it make it correct that this sort of thing should happen? Also I believe their communications in the form of "private messages" was also exposed. So their partners could see them having "sexually explicit conversations" with people. Some of these people lost their jobs and careers as well especially if they were involved in a career that had morality clauses in their job contract eg teachers, health care workers and so forth

Millions of pounds every year are lost by people being scammed by unscrupulous criminals operating on the web - people loose life changing amounts of money often in the 10's of thousands of pounds - and these are often people you would consider cautious "streetwise" business people for instance
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What about identity theft.
I was in so much debt one time that i wished somone would steal my identity but if they had they would have probably brought it back.
 
Me & my bestest computer buddy wrote a simple combat flight sim on our Atari St's back in the 80's, mostly him 'cos he is what you'd class as a genius. We put it out to the then very small flight sim community & within 3days our world was turned upside down.

Turns out that we'd built in an imaginary function that was actually closer to the truth than anyone wanted anyone else to know about !

We really did dream it up, they thought it was the Russkies telling them they knew . . .
 
Mottie said:
I think they also sold a missile to the Argies that killed our boys out in the Falklands.
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Argentina weren't UK enemies when the weapons were sold.
Now which country is it that sells weapons to Mid Eastern countries so they can continue bombing Yemen?
And which country is it that pretends to sell weapons to Iran, then reneges on the deal and keeps the money. And just ignores the plight of civilians caught up in the scandal? In fact, not only does UK ignore the plight of civilians, it actually aggravates the situation by exposing those civilians to falsifying their visa applications.
It's the UK of course.

Mottie said:
Some UK haters go out there to live because they can get cheap frogs legs and snails. Let me think......
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Don't forget the wine, the bread, the cheese, and the foie gras!
And don't forget the je ne sais quoi..... :ROFLMAO:
 
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