Disgraceful

[Brigade77]

Local woman in her late 40's who is not quite the full shilling, she's married to the village 'Bodd' who does everyone's odd jobs & gardening etc . . . .

Someone in the village in middle management got her a job in a local large factory, not at all testing for her abilities, a short bus ride, 8-5, 5 days a week. I'm told she was well liked by fellow workers & with 10+yrs faithful service she was probably the longest serving on the factory floor . . .

So they've finished with their 3 waves of "redundancies", most of which have returned as agency workers on much reduced terms & conditions & thrown her on the scrapheap.

I'm told the 'agency' is very much not an option for her. All the village is asking each other if anyone can help her out . . . .

Me, I want to build a factory next door, hire all their ex-workers, bankrupt the bastards, smash the boardroom table to pieces & shove it splinter by splinter up the directors arses.

Thank you recent Gov'mnt's for making it uneconomical to directly employ staff on the lower rungs & turning a blind eye to the antics of the agencies.

 

[conny]

Only experience I have had with agency workers was many years ago back in Liverpool.
The company employed an old guy as a cleaner from an agency. Joe was getting paid £5.50 an hour with ne benefits such as holidays, sick pay etc.
Chatting with the manager at a social gathering we were discussing Joe and what a good worker he was. Manager said, "I hope so, the money the agency charges for him!"
When I asked how much he said it cost the company the equivalent of just under £18 an hour. I soon convinced him to employ Joe directly and, after calculating how it would cost, he did. It also enabled him to give Joe a pay rise to £6.50 an hour, which made Joe the happiest and most industrious, cleaner I have ever met. It also made the boss happy because he was also saving money.

 

[JohnD]

I hear British Gas are bouncing employees off with the intention of re-emplying them on worse pay and conditions.

 

[Notch7]

There's money to be made in recruitment agencies.....they seem to be like private healthcare businesses.

 

[conny]

Seems like money for old rope to me. They get paid to advertise a job vacancy, have a chat with a few people then send them for interview and get repeatedly paid again when someone is taken on.

 

[ellal]

So they've finished with their 3 waves of "redundancies", most of which have returned as agency workers on much reduced terms & conditions & thrown her on the scrapheap.

I thought we'd been 'told' it was the fault of the 'immigrants' for driving down wages, not private agencies/corporations?

 

[ellal]

There's money to be made in recruitment agencies.....they seem to be like private healthcare businesses.

No budget for extra full time nurses in the NHS...

So it's charge the NHS 2 or 3 times the amount for agency nurses (often the same NHS ones) for which a budget does exist.

Agency makes a fortune, the taxpayer foots the bill...

It's all a big con!

 

[Mottie]

No budget for extra full time nurses in the NHS...

So it's charge the NHS 2 or 3 times the amount for agency nurses (often the same NHS ones) for which a budget does exist.

Agency makes a fortune, the taxpayer foots the bill...

It's all a big con!

For once I find myself agreeing with you.

The NHS would often take on agency staff to work alongside Mrs Mottie and her team in her transcribing department when a backlog built up. They were paid more than the regular employed workers, were bloody useless, had to keep asking how to do this, how to do that as well as not having the 'ear' to understand different consultants accents (one agency audio typist was actually partially deaf!) which does take time and in general they held up the regular team, not helped them. They've since stopped hiring all temps in that department (mainly due to having no backlog due to clinics being cancelled) but are now looking to take on regular staff as things are opening up again.

 

[Ihavenojob]

No budget for extra full time nurses in the NHS...

So it's charge the NHS 2 or 3 times the amount for agency nurses (often the same NHS ones) for which a budget does exist.

Agency makes a fortune, the taxpayer foots the bill...

It's all a big con!

But does the NHS (or any company) have to pay agency staff sick pay,holiday pay,maternity/paternity pay, NI ? That is probably why they take on agency staff if they don't have to pay those things, that and the fact they can let them go with no payout.

 

[Mottie]

I think the law was changed fairly recently and they have to do some of those those things.

 

[JohnD]

Agency makes a fortune, the taxpayer foots the bill...

Super plot by those who want to privatise the NHS by stealth.

Fewer permanent jobs for nurses, so jobseekers lose out

Employees lose out

Taxpayers lose out

NHS loses out

Private business makes a profit.

 

[Mottie]

Private business makes a profit.

Isn’t that what’s supposed to happen?

 

[JohnD]

I thought we'd been 'told' it was the fault of the 'immigrants' for driving down wages, not private agencies/corporations?

I'm sure I heard recently that some organisation was driving down wages for nurses and other public workers. Some group that doesn't like nurses; doesn't like public services; doesn't like good wages for the workers.

Let me think, who was it?

I'm sure it'll come to me.

Not the first time, either.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

In an earlier life and just once, I took a job via an agency, but on the strict understanding that I would only be employed via the agency then the company would either employ me direct, or I would be gone. The three months almost arrived and I reminded the manager I would be gone the following week, unless they offered me the job direct. They moved very quickly.

My partner took a job at a local school via an agency. The school were complaining about what the agency was costing them, so she suggested she work directly for them instead. She now works directly, on a permanent contract and on much better terms - she gets paid a salary year round, but does no work during the school holidays. Working for the agency, she would be working on other jobs during the school holidays, or not get paid. The only thing - she has to take her holidays during the school holiday times.

 

[JohnD]

Super plot by those who want to privatise the NHS by stealth.

Fewer permanent jobs for nurses, so jobseekers lose out
Employees lose out
Taxpayers lose out
NHS loses out
Private business makes a profit.

no, mottie, that sequence of events is not what is supposed to happen.