Daunte Wright

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When I heard this on the news I was dumbfounded, how stupid are they. Especially in a time where tensions are high already and race relations in the state are at their all time low.

There is no excuses for this, she should be held fully accountable, and get done for murder at the very least man slaughter, and serve a long prison service.

America - the thickest country on earth..

No not murder as you have to prove intent. This was reckless and negligent but it was not murder.

The point of defunding the police is really is specific to the US. End qualified immunity and retrain officers.

Just read this.

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/30/7747...an-whose-home-they-blew-up-appeals-court-says

The police blew up a mans house and do not face any charges. Qualified immunity needs to end in the US - and is part of the defund the police campaign. Nobody wants to end the Police but they want better accountability.

The training needs to improve.
 
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My experience of American police strongly suggests that officer training is poor. With towns and even villages having there own police forces there does not appear to be any central ( federal ) standard of training for police officers.

There are over 17,000 police forces in the USA with different standards of training. In some "cities" the public vote to select the people for the job of police officer. In others the Mayor or Council run the police service and put "suitable" people into the police force for the city.

There are City Police. ( A "city" can be as small as 300 houses, what we would call a village )
Above them there are County Sheriffs
Above them there are State Police.
Above them there are some Federal Agencies

And between them there exists rivalry which gets in the way of the task of policing.

In DC alone there is about 27 Police and Law Enforcemen departments with overlapping jurisduction.

It's a mess and is why there is the movement to defund the Police and reduces waste and overlap - it's not about gettind rid of the Police.

The lowest level of training required to carry a weapon as a public servant is being a TSA officer at an airport.
 
Ok so they discovered the guy had an outstanding arrest warrant when they pulled him over, however what was the arrest warrant for? Unless it's something VERY serious, was the outcome warranted?

And as for some of their officers being undertrained in firearms, can you imagine what it would be like here? You only have to watch some of the fly on the wall police progs to see there are a fair few officers out of their depth in certain situations. I dread to think what would happen if those officers had a firearm on them, not to mention those with superiority complexes.

When you start Googling, the amount of almost unbelievable stories from the US around race beggars belief. A black guy who was doing stuff in his own front garden questioned by police, who were called by a white woman who assumed he was up to no good. An innocent black guy walking up a front path to ask the owners for directions, the woman of the house comes out pointing a gun at him! A black guy walking into a residential apartment block where he lived being blocked by a white women who assumed there was no way he could own an apartment.

And people question why black people and other minorities don't just put it all to bed and move on?!?
 
I think it’s well known in the US that if you resist arrest you risk getting shot
I think you'll find it’s well known in the US that if you are in possession of a black skin you risk getting shot by the police whatever the circumstances!
 
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I admire the way that you can both be affronted and joke about the death of a fellow human being.

Clutching at straws. The same mottie who denies the extra deaths from the current Governments late lockdowns.

Sit down and watch some fish and pron.
 
Getting a tazor and gun mixed up P*** poor excuse imo

Should be facing manslaughter charges at the very least ?
 
It's a mess and is why there is the movement to defund the Police and reduces waste and overlap - it's not about gettind rid of the Police.

I thought quite a few cities in the US had already started that process.

it's not about gettind rid of the Police.

Not sure how you can drastically reduce a budget without reducing police numbers.
 
No harm done, as he was probably only guilty of having a black skin and driving a reasonably nice car.

One of the saving graces in the UK is that plod is not routinely armed...
He was pulled over for having expired tags, and then the police discovered there was an arrest warrant out for him. He then jumped into his car and tried to drive off.

however, he didn’t deserve to be shot and killed, and I couldn’t agree more about the uk police not being routinely armed.
 
tried to drive off.

understandable he might try to run away from the sort of people who will shoot you dead for a traffic violation.

That doesn't happen to privileged people.

 
understandable he might try to run away from the sort of people who will shoot you dead for a traffic violation.

That doesn't happen to privileged people.

As a motorcyclist I gets pulled up more than my fair share. When was the last time you were pulled up comrade JohnDski?

One of the bestest things about the wearing of the helmet, is nobody knows who you actually are, & therefore by default they simply do not care. I have rode this Sceptered Isle with rock gods, with Oscar winning actors (OK, maybe not a real Oscar) & with many other folk who suffer from Joe Public's misconceived attention. They likes their bikes 'cos it makes them feel mortal again, it levels the field & they can go out & about to mingle amongst the great unwashed without having bits of their bodies ripped off for a trophy souvenir.

One of our chaps is a barrister, he's school'd us as best he can in how the law works & he's skooled us all in what to say & what not to say during their frequent, routine & mostly illegal traffic stops. "No comment" does nothing but raise their hackles, "am I legally obliged to answer that question" will get you a sharp & painful blow from a baton. Apparently, it is our choice as to just how far it all goes, the only thing that seems to make any sense to us is the GoPro's we now find necessary to wear all over everything. Attitudes seem to change when they on camera !

That very succesful barrister also happens to be black (actually half-caste). In his day job he drives a BMW, He can tell you exactly how the ratio of being a black man in a BMW & a biker, nondescript in a helmet works. He can also predict at what point when he's out on the bike that their attitude towards him changes.

If you had ever ventured out of your mother's back bedroom comrade JohnDski, you would maybe understand that us folk who have to suffer the ****e of the real world, & maybe just slightly, have a likkle teensy weensy inkling of how it all works.
 
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