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5000 additional heart condition deaths in the first lock down. Increased death from alcohol suicides etc. people unable to physically see doctors for over a year will have contributed to some of the spike
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Well, I'm willing to look at Ellals's "evidence."

What is the number of deaths that, in his "opinion," are "correctly" due to the virus?

And where is the "evidence" supporting his opinion?
Well that's exactly the point isn't it...
(as I've stated before)

No-one knows, because of the way of reporting 'virus' deaths...

If it is so bad why weren't those nightingale hospitals filled to the rafters instead of becoming expensive white elephants long before the jab(s) were suddenly developed?

But then rabid vaxxers don't it seems have the ability to think for themselves or question the figures!

I could of course follow IT Minion's lead and plop in 'probably', but then that's rather unhelpful in itself...

Where's the evidence for his 10% claim?
 
Well, I'm willing to look at Ellals's "evidence."

What is the number of deaths that, in his "opinion," are "correctly" due to the virus?

And where is the "evidence" supporting his opinion?

I am disappointed, but unsurprised, that he has none and is just spouting made-up fancies.
 
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Hey Ellal. What advice did you get from your family members who are doctors?? Did they say you were right and that they wouldn't have the jab either? Is your refusal a "cultural thing"? Did you read about the mother and daughter who recently both died of covid, in the same ward, both who refused to be vaccinated? Kind of natural selection I guess but said for other members of their family. Have your "medical offspring" been pinned or not?
Pray do tell.
 
No-one knows, because of the way of reporting 'virus' deaths...

No, it seems only you don't know, or more accurately, refuse to believe the statistics due to your secret knowledge and research that you refuse to share with anybody.
 
rabid vaxxers

And, if you are not an anti-vaxxer (just somebody who has done research and discovered something that medics don't know, and chosen not to vaccinate because its really dangerous and you're scared etc), why do you refer to those who have had the vaccine as "rabid vaxxers"?

It is because you're a:
  1. Covid denier
  2. Anti-vaxxer
  3. Troll
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Red or brown, HP or Heinz?
No source, did you just make it up then?

Edit: I've found the source and it doesn't say what Gas thinks it does.

It found 73,799 cases where heart or circulatory disease was named as the underlying cause of death. That is 4,785 higher than the number projected by Public Health England over the same time period.

In around a quarter of the additional or excess cases, Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate, suggesting that in the majority of cases other factors were to blame.
So of those 5,000 roughly 1/4 were due in part to Covid-19. Or more since at the start of Covid you weren't allowed to record Covid on the death certificate without a positive test, which was impossible to get unless you were in hospital.

It wasn't for the first lockdown, it was between 20 March and 30 October.

This consistent lack of attention to detail is why Gas doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54935043.amp
 
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Well that's exactly the point isn't it...
(as I've stated before)

No-one knows, because of the way of reporting 'virus' deaths...

If it is so bad why weren't those nightingale hospitals filled to the rafters instead of becoming expensive white elephants long before the jab(s) were suddenly developed?

But then rabid vaxxers don't it seems have the ability to think for themselves or question the figures!

I could of course follow IT Minion's lead and plop in 'probably', but then that's rather unhelpful in itself...

Where's the evidence for his 10% claim?
I'm not going to give you my full medical history, but in short I'm extremely clinically vulnerable.
 
I'm not going to give you my full medical history, but in short I'm extremely clinically vulnerable.
Sorry to hear that, but I didn't ask for it. Unlike other people on here might do!














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Where is the "evidence" for any of your made-up fancies?
Nothing made up...

And so the experiment continues...

"Youngsters aged 12-16 are to be offered a mix of coronavirus vaccines in a new trial to determine whether children need a second jab and if so which type would be most effective.

Researchers from the University of Oxford are carrying out the trial which will analyse how the participants respond to various combinations."

"Some children will remain with Pfizer and get either another full dose or a half measure.
Others will receive a half dose of the Moderna vaccine or a full one of Novavax."

"The randomised trials, in which the children will not know which second vaccine they are getting, will happen at sites in London, Bristol, Southampton and Oxford."

So they're now experimenting on kids, and parents it appears have no say...

'made-up fancies'?

There's your evidence!
 
So they're now experimenting on kids, and parents it appears have no say...

Don't be daft. If this was Twitter or Facebook, your account would either have a warning label on it (fake news, conspiracy etc) or have been deleted by now

From the same report that you quoted from, it says "The trial is recruiting 360 volunteers"

You might want to look up the definition of volunteer, Ellal.
 
Nothing made up...

And so the experiment continues...

"Youngsters aged 12-16 are to be offered a mix of coronavirus vaccines in a new trial to determine whether children need a second jab and if so which type would be most effective.

Researchers from the University of Oxford are carrying out the trial which will analyse how the participants respond to various combinations."

"Some children will remain with Pfizer and get either another full dose or a half measure.
Others will receive a half dose of the Moderna vaccine or a full one of Novavax."

"The randomised trials, in which the children will not know which second vaccine they are getting, will happen at sites in London, Bristol, Southampton and Oxford."

So they're now experimenting on kids, and parents it appears have no say...

'made-up fancies'?

There's your evidence!
The best trials are double blind, where the subjects and the people running the trials don't know which of the options the patient has given.

In this case the volunteers, and their parents, will have been told the range of options and they will have been told that they won't know what they were given until after the trial is complete. That's when they have their say. They'll be able to drop out at any time and be 'unblinded' but everyone tried to avoid that so they don't get removed from the data.

You've got no reason to say the parents don't get a say, that's a guess on your part and very unlikely to pass an ethics board.
 
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