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You are quite right. Next time I have a sore arm or leg I'll poke it with a stick.

Or remove the pump, open up the valve, use a borascope (std kit for a plumber) to look up the pipe.
Give the blockage a prod to see how soft or hard it is, gauge the problem, apply appropriate solutions.

If its as hard as concrete, you can recommend it be cut out.
If not, perhaps cleaning or just a poke is good enough.

You are stuck fast on the solution rather than the problem.
 
Which is utterly the wrong approach

We are actually both wrong. I've now learned that what I need is a pipe clearing stick (not sure if that is the correct technical term) and I have some on order.
 
If its as hard as concrete, you can recommend it be cut out.
If not, perhaps cleaning or just a poke is good enough.

Can I get a hardness/softness gauge fitted to my stick? Hope that doesn't cost too much more. Not so bad if it fits a number of different sticks cause it'll cost me a fortune if not.
 
I must be honest, If I said to my client, I'm just going to poke it with a stick and see if I can free things up, I'd quite rightly be shown the door.

I originally asked the OP, on the first page of that post, if a magnet was being attracted to that area, he said it did, there's the evidence. That is a well established test to identify that there is a significant amount of magnetite at the CC area of the feed and vent. If there is enough magentite to attract a magnet then there it points to a significant, if not total blockage in that area. If it is blocked to that degree then invariably it will need cut out as it will be solid, that is a well known and accepted industry standard fix. It is very unlikely this type of blockage could be removed by any mechanical or other means and the safest way to remove it is by cutting it out and then cutting back until the pipe is clear. That's what experience tells me would be the first course of action.
It is a relative quick and easy repair and could even be performed by a competent DIY'er using a pipe slice, some copper pipe and compression fittings, if that's what was ultimately preferred.

The system would then be looked at to see what else may be recommended to prevent it happening again.

TBH, this could have all been done and dusted really quickly instead of running into pages and pages of wrangling.
 
Agreed.

The training bit, not so much.

A day out with a free lunch and a slide show isn't much training....

that doesnt describe a professional

no one becomes a professional plumber / heating engineer after a days course.
 
When people like Gasguru get dissed ( a chap with knowledge well beyond what is needed by a RGI), what is the point in locking horns with those that have a blunt axe and a BIG spoon, and no interest in self betterment
Other pros who have offered solid advice, I raise my hat to you as well. Do not blame you for ducking the mud slinging
 
Wow, I've just read this entire thread and have, I think, learned two things:-

1. There's an entire backstory of which I'm totally unaware

2. A DIYer thinks that poking a blockage with a stick and sending the dirt around the system is a good idea, whereas pro's prefer to remove the blockage entirely

Amiright?
 
Wow, I've just read this entire thread and have, I think, learned two things:-

1. There's an entire backstory of which I'm totally unaware

2. A DIYer thinks that poking a blockage with a stick and sending the dirt around the system is a good idea, whereas pro's prefer to remove the blockage entirely

Amiright?
I bet he gives the crunchy Vaillant hoses a good squeeze.
 
Wow, I've just read this entire thread and have, I think, learned two things:-

1. There's an entire backstory of which I'm totally unaware

2. A DIYer thinks that poking a blockage with a stick and sending the dirt around the system is a good idea, whereas pro's prefer to remove the blockage entirely

Amiright?

1. Yes.
2. No.
 
Wow, I've just read this entire thread and have, I think, learned two things:-

1. There's an entire backstory of which I'm totally unaware

2. A DIYer thinks that poking a blockage with a stick and sending the dirt around the system is a good idea, whereas pro's prefer to remove the blockage entirely

Amiright?
Do it with a viessmann with crunchy hoses and post the video please, could do with a laugh
 

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