RSJ and building Regs

[stephen Sharp]

Hi

Some help needed please.

We had a supporting wall knocked through in 2018 and stupidly didn't get any work signed off. Can we got post approval? The chap who done the work is a builder by trade so I'm not doubting the work carried out.

Any help, advice would be Great.

Thank you.

 

[jeds]

You probably can but may require opening up and a structural calculation. Why do you want it regularised now? If you are selling, the alternative option is to provide an indemnity policy. Your solicitor can arrange that for you.

PS. Don't contact the local authority about it. Doing that will close off the option of an indemnity.

 

[stephen Sharp]

Thanks for the reply........possibly selling this year. And wouldn't want any holds ups etc..........i take it pictures of work are not adequate?

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

They might be but your Building Control officer may want to know exactly what the beams are bearing on and what size the beam is - do you know? What is behind that bit that looks like it's been coated in mortar? What about the other end? He might want engineers calculations done. I would doubt the quality of work of any builder who fails to mention Building Regs is required irrespective of that responsibility lying at the homeowners door builders should know better, before some of our fellow forumites jump on that little nugget.

 

[oldbutnotdead]

Thanks for the reply........possibly selling this year. And wouldn't want any holds ups etc..........i take it pictures of work are not adequate?

Nope- pics show it's an RSJ, every bco I've ever met wants structural engineer calcs for those plus (sometimes) provenance for the metal- (bad people have been known to salvage steel from fire damaged buildings, spray them up and flog them as new). Regularisation- prob £400 to building control, another £250 to an SE and whatever it costs to replace plaster etc hacked off at the bearings and above the steel (to make sure the wall above is being properly supported).
Indemnity much cheaper....

 

[stephen Sharp]

They might be but your Building Control officer may want to know exactly what the beams are bearing on and what size the beam is - do you know? What is behind that bit that looks like it's been coated in mortar? What about the other end? He might want engineers calculations done. I would doubt the quality of work of any builder who fails to mention Building Regs is required irrespective of that responsibility lying at the homeowners door builders should know better, before some of our fellow forumites jump on that little nugget.

From memory the RSJ is sitting on padstones both ends. I'm not sure size of beam but it was ordered to size and delivered. I could get a copy of receipt. Bit behind is the carry on from the kitchin wall - pic 3.

 

[oldbutnotdead]

From memory the RSJ is sitting on padstones both ends. I'm not sure size of beam but it was ordered to size and delivered. I could get a copy of receipt. Bit behind is the carry on from the kitchin wall - pic 3.

Receipt good, shame that pic of bearing detail shows a low density block wall and a load of mortar- there might be a padstone in there but I wouldn't be convinced.

 

[stephen Sharp]

Receipt good, shame that pic of bearing detail shows a low density block wall and a load of mortar- there might be a padstone in there but I wouldn't be convinced.

It's definitely not sitting on just mortar Can low density blocks be used, cut etc......as I say tho - 99 percent sure padstone was used.

As mentioned, the insurance is probably the easiest route.

 

[Koolpc]

If selling, do you need to mention that the room was divided during your ownership?

 

[stephen Sharp]

If selling, do you need to mention that the room was divided during your ownership?

Not sure...would prefer to be honest. I'm sure would show something up from last search etc....

 

[oldbutnotdead]

Not sure...would prefer to be honest. I'm sure would show something up from last search etc....

There's a form you have to fill in as part of selling, asks about all sorts of stuff

 

[stephen Sharp]

There's a form you have to fill in as part of selling, asks about all sorts of stuff

Yeah.....i thought so.

So the insurance policy would unlikely hold anything up. Of course we would pay this.

 

[martygturner]

You could ask a private BCO to do a quote for you and a schedule of inspection required, i have had a few done on property bought at auction with no paperwork whatsoever. £350+vat plus a £75 filing fee to the local council for searches. Both times I have had a beam regularised all it took was a small bit of plasterboard to be cut out. To show the beaning, padstone and beam itself at both ends...the beam size was confirmed there and then with a laptop.

You will probably find that you are overthinking what needs to be done, that beam in the picture could hold a carpark up

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

I thought Private Building Control Inspectors were unable to do Regularisations?

 

[martygturner]

They can do what ever a BCO does as they are just the same...