Help with Fused Spur Info

[Pete E]

I have unfused spur going to a single double gang socket...This spur is fed from a single gang socket which is part of the ring main.

I now want to add another socket off this spur, so need to change it to a fused spur. The usual way of doing this is fitting an Fused Spur Outlet....

Rather than fitting a separate FSO near my existing socket, is there such a thing as a 13amp socket outlet with additional terminals (via a fuse)outlet for the spur wiring ie everything built into one unit? I know you can get a standard fused 13am socket, but that's not what I mean...
Regards,

Peter

 

[EFLImpudence]

Rather than fitting a separate FSO near my existing socket, is there such a thing as a 13amp socket outlet with additional terminals (via a fuse)outlet for the spur wiring ie everything built into one unit?

No.

I know you can get a standard fused 13am socket, but that's not what I mean...

No, you can't. Sockets are not fused.


You could just use 4mm² T&E for the spur cable and then no fuse is required for multiple sockets on the spur.

 

[Pete E]

Thanks for that...it would be a lot of work to replace the existing wiring with 4mm, and I would probably just get a spark to incorporate the spurs into the ring main first...My present plan involves about a meter of cable to proved a spur off an already existing spur, but it just means I need to make the set up fused...

It no big deal but the other half was not keen on another socket on display, but I am sure she will learn to live with it!

 

[pete01]

Or you could change the 32 amp protective device for a 20 amp, then you can spur away.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Thanks for that...it would be a lot of work to replace the existing wiring with 4mm, and I would probably just get a spark to incorporate the spurs into the ring main first...My present plan involves about a meter of cable to proved a spur off an already existing spur, but it just means I need to make the set up fused...

Fair enough.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Or you could change the 32 amp protective device for a 20 amp, then you can spur away.

He could in a low usage bedroom circuit but not advisable in the likes of a kitchen.

 

[pete01]

He could in a low usage bedroom circuit but not advisable in the likes of a kitchen.

Yes of course.

 

[Pete E]

The house was built in the 90s and I *think* all the sockets are on one cct. That excludes cooker, immersion and shower of course...Would need to double check, but I think the way forward is just making it a fused spur...The spur will only be used for a TV, so current draw really won't be an issue, but want to comply with the Regs rather than having two unfused spurs going back to socket on the ring main...

 

[EFLImpudence]

but want to comply with the Regs rather than having two unfused spurs going back to socket on the ring main...

That would, of course, be compliant and perfectly acceptable with only one double socket on each spur.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Someone is bound to say you can't, or it's very difficult to, get four wires in socket terminals but you can and it isn't.

 

[Pete E]

That would, of course, be compliant and perfectly acceptable with only one double socket on each spur.

Sorry, that's my poor wording...the socket I intend to fit will be fed from a socket that is already a spur....

 

[Murdochcat]

Someone is bound to say you can't, or it's very difficult to, get four wires in socket terminals but you can and it isn't.

Some cheap sockets won’t accept 4 cables

 

[EFLImpudence]

Sorry, that's my poor wording...the socket I intend to fit will be fed from a socket that is already a spur....

Ok.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I told you.

Some cheap sockets won’t accept 4 cables

 

[Murdochcat]

I told you.

I stated that because it’s a FACT.

and lots of the cheap ones won’t accept 3 x imperial cables either