Cop 28

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Wind is part of the energy mix including solar and nuclear.

climate change deniers always spout nonsense about wind being unreliable.
Climate change believers always spout nonsense about the uncomfortable truths.
 
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Let's start at the beginning.

Is the climate changing, or isn't it ?

Simple yes or no

Well
Rumour has it that it is ?? Bloke in Greenland is growing strawberry’s and vegetables which apparently has never occurred before ??

He is as happy as a pig in wat sit as he could also end up as a millionaire ??
 
It is sometimes easy to forget that the words over which delegates are fighting lead to real-life damages. Dr Jeni Miller, executive director of the Global Climate and Health Alliance, said the most recent draft of the COP28 text would be “disastrous for people’s health” and represents a major step backwards at a time when we urgently need to be accelerating action.

“Small islands states have rightly called this text a death sentence,” she said. “The lack of any actual commitment to phase out fossil fuels leaves us on a trajectory to spiraling climate impacts on health that will exceed the limits of our health systems’ and communities’ abilities to adapt. And it will continue to expose people all over the world to the myriad health impacts of fossil fuel even beyond their role in climate change, such as the over 5 million deaths per year from air pollution alone.”

Live!@theGrundiana

While many countries wanted the text strengthened, climate campaigners feared that others such as Saudi Arabia and its oil producing allies in Opec might use the final hours to try to further weaken the draft. The Saudis have spent the meeting insisting the document should refer to dealing with emissions, not fossil fuels.

The like minded group of developing countries, which includes China, India and Saudi Arabia, have accused umbrella group members US, Norway, Australia and Canada of hypocrisy for saying they wanted to phase out unabated fossil fuels while planning to either expand or not significantly cut their own production.

The chief executive of Climate Analytics, Dr Bill Hare, said the text was an “epic mess” and there was “no way if it was operationalised that it would keep 1.5C in reach”. He said it did not adequately reference phasing out fossil fuels or the need to act rapidly this decade to address the problem.
 
or even up to their level...:unsure:
Just because you do not agree with popular opinion doesn't always put you in the wrong.

I guess you mean like:

believing covid vaccines don’t work
believing climate change doesn’t exist
believing Rwanda scheme is a great solution
supporting Russia to win Ukraine war

you can look up to those people if you like

good luck in getting any intelligent debate from them.
 
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