Those massive queues at Dover that brexers claim don’t exist….are back

All basic holiday criteria
Protest all you like but it is now more difficult to enter and stay the EU than it used to be when we were members. That is just a fact.

You have already admitted it, and if that is what you want then ok. Just don't deny the obvious.
 
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Protest all you like but it is now more difficult to enter and stay the EU than it used to be when we were members. That is just a fact.

You have already admitted it, and if that is what you want then ok. Just don't deny the obvious.
It’s only a little bit of an inconvenience. Like to going to the USA etc. A few minutes and it’s all sorted.

We need borders and better ones at that.
 
It’s only a little bit of an inconvenience.
Fine. It is worse than before, however you dress it up. Some things are more than a little bit of inconvenience.

Brexiteers could be honest and say "I voted to leave and I don't care if it inconveniences us or makes things more difficult. I'm just happy we left".

But no, everything we do is now so much easier/cheaper/etc, etc, than it was before. B@llocks.
 
We need borders and better ones at that.
We can't do it on our own, we need to collaborate with others on a worldwide problem. Somehow we think going it alone is the answer.
 
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We can't do it on our own, we need to collaborate with others on a worldwide problem. Somehow we think going it alone is the answer.
We pay France a small fortune. Would paying them more help? Or have they dropped their guard since we left the EU ?
 
Fine. It is worse than before, however you dress it up. Some things are more than a little bit of inconvenience.

Brexiteers could be honest and say "I voted to leave and I don't care if it inconveniences us or makes things more difficult. I'm just happy we left".

But no, everything we do is now so much easier/cheaper/etc, etc, than it was before. B@llocks.
I’m pretty much neutral to Brexit. But personally it hasn’t had any impact on my life.

My dad can’t stay in Spain as much as he’d like now and is too stubborn to fill in paperwork. So I’m not saying it’s not had any effect.

It’s just not the massive flaming ball of **** the other gang paint it as.
 
This year yeah france
As well mexico , cape verde , and guess what they also have entry requirements that you have to fill in beforehand . All basic holiday criteria
So you understand travel in Europe is different to how it was before
 
My dad can’t stay in Spain as much as he’d like now and is too stubborn to fill in paperwork. So I’m not saying it’s not had any effect.
Tell gas this. He keeps trying to deny it.

Actually he said things were the same. We all know that is wrong
 
It shouldn’t be though. As an Island we only need France to earn their money.

Maybe the EU can work together and help ?
We're not in the EU.

They don't have any interest in our problems. We wanted to go alone.

You know, to " control our borders"
 
In what way? Do you think France should keep all illegals and that we take none?
As per my previous comment, we should take our fair share and we do. France basically ship them over to us. And we pay royally for the privilege.

Not everything has to be an argument Denny. The entire system is a mess. But France and the money we pay to them is a bone of contention for me. That’s all there is to it.
 
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