What does Starmer hope to achieve by sending British troops to Ukraine.
The Ukrainian army has shown itself to be formidable and well led, the Ukrainians have fought bravely and died in large numbers.
J D Vance. Munich speech.
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The Ukrainian army has shown itself to be formidable and well led, the Ukrainians have fought bravely and died in large numbers.
Oh look Vinty the Putin apologist trying to frame Russia as the victim AGAIN.
This thread is about JD Vances speech that moans about EU nations not spending on their military, yet here you are claiming EU is an “expansionist power bloc”
Oh the cognitive dissonance
Rhetoric to try and encourage other EU nations to step up
With USA stepping back, the U.K. finds itself as a major influence in EU…..poor Vinty must be getting an ulcer
Should he comment on every defamation case throughout the world simply because he advocates free speech. I suspect if the band member had left it at 'facist' he might have got away with it but adding 'piece of ***t' to the insult must surely test the legal boundaries of free speech.
I will pretty much guarantee that it won't cost 'Murca anything at all.
Quite the opposite, in all likelihood.
There was an article in the Telegraph arguing the better way to stabilise the peace deal would be to fully arm and train the Ukrainians with USA providing air superiority.
Well, not exactly, Zelensky has himself suggested some land could be ceded, in return for NATO protection of the remaining borders, that's NATO protection rather that NATO membership. Not saying he doesn't want membership, but in the short to medium term would settle for protection.
Then negotiations.
Zelensky Suggests Ceding Land for Peace Deal if NATO Protects Majority of Ukraine
Zelensky suggested a ceasefire could be possible if NATO protects Ukraine’s controlled territories in an interview aired Friday, signaling a shift in strategy to end the war.
www.kyivpost.com
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As part of a peacekeeping force. You tend not have either side of the conflict doing that.
That seems logical as NATO is strategically designed around air superiority.
My concern would be that USA airforce would require massive air defence systems to protect aircraft, both on ground and in the air.
are the Wests airforces upto to coping with the latest drones.
I can’t help thinking our military powers are now out of date
You get a lot for $500bn!
They will have learnt an enormous amount from this war. I saw the other day that UK has very quickly developed a cheap system they are sending to Ukraine.
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He doesn't really say ok to giving up any land,
“If we want to stop the hot phase of the war, we need to take under the NATO umbrella the territory of Ukraine that we have under our control,” he told Sky News. “We need to do it fast. And then on the [occupied] territory of Ukraine, Ukraine can get them back in a diplomatic way.”
So he wants NATO protection "provided the alliance recognizes Ukraine's internationally recognized borders".
Trump "negotiators" have effectively ruled that out. Unless it's a double bluff to trick Pootin. Let's see.
They've already supplied weapons and munitions to Ukrainian troops, although providing fighter jets would cross a Russian red line since NATO forces are prohibited from the battlefield.
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What don’t you understand. Ukraine are not in NATO. America is. We and other EU countries are funding this war in fear it could escalate into something bigger. Well it already is escalating without us going over there.
