J D Vance. Munich speech.

[denso13]

We should get our European act together defence wise, and close all US bases in Europe and European dependencies across the globe. Tell the orange **** to do one.

 

[Notch7]

We should get our European act together defence wise, and close all US bases in Europe and European dependencies across the globe. Tell the orange **** to do one.

USA military and USA foreign aid buys global power.

USA isolationism will lead to America being weakened

Also it threatens the Dollar as the worlds reserve currency

 

[Deleted member 265726]

We should get our European act together defence wise, and close all US bases in Europe and European dependencies across the globe. Tell the orange **** to do one.

Suicide mission.

 

[denso13]

Suicide mission.

Not at all, we don't need to spend what the US spends to have an effective deterrent. But we should take the lead and call his bluff. Tell him to get lost.

 

[Deleted member 265726]

Not at all, we don't need to spend what the US spends to have an effective deterrent. But we should take the lead and call his bluff. Tell him to get lost.

Sure.

 

[denso13]

Sure.

Of course we don't. We don't need to police the Pacific, defend Taiwan or be the world's "peacekeepers".

The notion that Trump expects all NATO countries to invest the same as America in defence is crazy.

 

[Deleted member 265726]

Of course we don't. We don't need to police the Pacific, defend Taiwan or be the world's "peacekeepers".

The notion that Trump expects all NATO countries to invest the same as America in defence is crazy.

? He has asked NATO countries to make up their contributions to 2% of GDP as far as I am aware?

 

[denso13]

? He has asked NATO countries to make up their contributions to 2% of GDP as far a I am aware?

5%, which America don't even spend.

Trump’s uphill battle to make NATO allies hit his mega defense spending target

Russian hostility and waning American support trigger broad agreement to boost defense spending — but 5 percent of GDP is too much for most European countries.

www.politico.eu

 

[Deleted member 265726]

5%, which America don't even spend.

Trump’s uphill battle to make NATO allies hit his mega defense spending target

Russian hostility and waning American support trigger broad agreement to boost defense spending — but 5 percent of GDP is too much for most European countries.

www.politico.eu

OK. Looks like an art of the deal ploy to me, as sadly some NATO countries have been dragging their heels which can't be allowed to continue. I suspect he wants to get them to 2% as a baseline.

 

[Notch7]

? He has asked NATO countries to make up their contributions to 2% of GDP as far as I am aware?

That’s not contributions to NATO budget

That’s the % of gdp each country pays towards its own military.

USA pays about 15% to NATO budget
EU nations + U.K. collectively pay about 60% or more of NATO budget

 

[denso13]

Looks like an art of the deal ploy to me

The usual Trump bullsh!t then. Some countries have very small armies, expecting everyone, such as Luxembourg, to pay the same doesn't make sense.

 

[Notch7]

OK. Looks like an art of the deal ploy to me, as sadly some NATO countries have been dragging their heels which can't be allowed to continue. I suspect he wants to get them to 2% as a baseline.

23 countries spend 2% or more on their military.

 

[Deleted member 265726]

The usual Trump bullsh!t then. Some countries have very small armies, expecting everyone, such as Luxembourg, to pay the same doesn't make sense.

He is a businessman not a diplomat. He will ask for way more than he actually expects to get. Seriously uncomfortable though for those who find themselves in his sights.

 

[Vinty]

That’s Putins playbook you are quoting.

Russia had no legitimate security concerns….that’s utter bolox


There is not blame on both sides…..Putin invaded Ukraine because he is an Imperialist dictator, that’s the only reason

The EU is an expansionist power bloc that has expanded up to the borders of another power bloc.
Major powers don't like other major powers on their borders.
The Americans were prepared to start a nuclear war in order to prevent the Russians coming to close to their borders by setting missiles in Cuba.
China intervened in the Korean war when the Americans pushed the Koreans right back to the Chinese border.

 

[opps]

Not the full version that's out there, just 6 minutes of it. Music to the ears of believers in free speech. And he didn't have any kids with him.

Has he commented on the fact that the lead singer of Placebo is facing prosecution for calling the Italian PM a fascist?

Placebo frontman Brian Molko charged with defamation of Italian PM Giorgia Meloni

Speaking in front of around 5,000 fans, the frontman of the alternative rock band called the prime minister a "piece of s***" and described her as "fascist" and "racist".

news.sky.com