Bye Bye Gary

[Deleted member 323070]

Lineker was forced to quit or sacked from the BBC .

Why?

Because his comments were considered anti semitic.

nothing to conflate as far as I'm concerned. It's you, Fenso and Tom who are doing the conflating, in a pathetic and futile attemp at concealingling or justifying your own prejudices.

Nonsense. His contract was not renewed because it's requirement of the BBC that presenters are not seen to support any political movement or party.

 

[fillyboy]

Nonsense. His contract was not renewed because it's requirement of the BBC that presenters are not seen to support any political movement or party.

"I very much regret these references.

I would never knowingly share anything antisemitic.

It goes against everything I believe in.

The post was removed as soon as I became aware of the issue"

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Lineker does not try to defend the hatred. He accepted his mistake

Gary Lineker apologises for 'Zionism' re-post featuring image of rat

The 64-year-old presenter faced criticism after he shared a post on Instagram from the Palestine Lobby group showing a picture of a rat and titled: "Zionism explained in two minutes."

news.sky.com

its a pity you want to double down.

He apologises for offending someone. That's all.
We are discussing your claim that it is antiSemitic to be antiZionist. It is not.
No more than that.

You have demonstrated on numerous occasions that your perception of situations is highly influenced and misinterpreted by your own ideology. This as another of those occasions.

 

[motorbiking]

"I very much regret these references.

I would never knowingly share anything antisemitic.

It goes against everything I believe in.

The post was removed as soon as I became aware of the issue"

"However, I recognise the error and upset that I caused, and reiterate how sorry I am. Stepping back now feels like the responsible course of action."

He does have to be careful in his apology, saying sorry does not mitigate the offence, but pretending you had no idea about the rat symbolism might.

 

[fillyboy]

We are discussing your claim that it is antiSemitic to be antiZionist. It is not.
No more than that.

Only you and odds are pushing that argument, simply to disguise your own hatred.

Look, Gary accepts what he did was wrong and why it was wrong, why can't you?

"I very much regret these references.

I would never knowingly share anything antisemitic.

It goes against everything I believe in.

The post was removed as soon as I became aware of the issue."

 

[noseall]

We're getting there.

Yep, he scarified his job for what he believes in and he's not alone in his disgust of Israel and their cruelty.

 

[fillyboy]

Yep, he scarified his job for what he believes in and he's not alone in his disgust of Israel and their cruelty.

It could all be ended at any time, all it takes is for Hamas to lay down their weapons and release what's left of the hostages, at least the ones who haven't been tortured to death.

 

[noseall]

It could all be ended at any time

Trump said the same.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

The history of animal metaphors in propaganda

Images of rats, snakes and cockroaches have been used to dehumanise political enemies and minority groups

theweek.com

After critics accused the BBC football presenter of promoting antisemitic imagery, Lineker insisted he hadn't noticed the rat, was unaware of its use in anti-Jewish propaganda and would "never knowingly share anything antisemitic".

You've intentionally omitted the first line of the article.
Deception by omission.
The article said:

Gary Lineker has "apologised unreservedly" after he shared a social media post critical of Zionism that included an illustration of a rat.
After critics accused the BBC football presenter of promoting antisemitic imagery, Lineker insisted he hadn't noticed the rat, was unaware of its use in anti-Jewish propaganda and would "never knowingly share anything antisemitic".

Thye article was antiZionist.
When criticised Gary apologised. He's not an expert on what is antiSemitic or not, so he played it safe.
Jews and Israelis are forever accusing anyone who criticises Jews, Israel, Netanyaho, Zionists, the pope, the settlers, TRUMP, et al for being antiSemitic..

The history of animal metaphors in propaganda

Images of rats, snakes and cockroaches have been used to dehumanise political enemies and minority groups

theweek.com

Why are rats an antisemitic symbol?
Jews were frequently represented as a pestilent species like rats or cockroaches in Germany as the Nazi party rose to power. Der Stürmer, a weekly newspaper notorious for its virulent antisemitism, depicted a Nazi gassing Jewish 'rats' huddled around the base of a tree in one cover image from as early as 1927. "When the vermin are dead," the caption said, "the German oak will flourish once more.[/I]

Yes we re already aware of that. It has nothing to do with Zionism.

Moreover, our research shows that the definition (of AntiSemitism) is overwhelmingly aimed at suppressing Palestinian rights advocates in order to silence criticism of Israeli policies and practices.

Weaponizing the Antisemitism Accusation

In an interview, Giovanni Fassina and Alice Garcia discuss why a controversial definition is penalizing support for Palestinian rights.

carnegieendowment.org

 

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They usually do though, in this instance it's to throw up a smokescreen to cover up their own hatred.

You're building an argument of mbk's poor and misinterpreted perception of reality.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Himmy, go to the cupboard where the nurse leaves your special pills and take one to help you shut up.

Do you not want to participate in the discussion? Or do you just want others to not participate?
Or just the ones that share your ideology?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

"I very much regret these references.

I would never knowingly share anything antisemitic.

It goes against everything I believe in.

The post was removed as soon as I became aware of the issue"

For the umpteenth time Garry is not an expert on what is antiSemitic, and Jews/Israelis and their supporters are forever accusing anyone who dares to speak out against the war crimes perpetrated by the IDF in Gaza and the West Bank.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Only you and odds are pushing that argument, simply to disguise your own hatred.

I am positing that argument because I believe it is the right argument.
You can twist it however you want.
Oh! You just did.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

It could all be ended at any time, all it takes is for Hamas to lay down their weapons and release what's left of the hostages, at least the ones who haven't been tortured to death.

The Israelis have demonstrated theri unreliability and their deception.
It's Netanyahu's stay out of jail ticket. He won't let go of that.

 

[fillyboy]

He's not an expert on what is antiSemitic or not, so he played it safe.

He should be, he's been at it long enough.