Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[motorbiking]

What would they actually do in reality

1) They wouldn’t stop the small boats because their policy is not legal

Despite its flaws, their plan is better than the current plan. Pay the French Millions to look the other way. As I have correctly told you dozens of times, there are many ways to make the small boat crossings less financially attractive to the smugglers. Turn 20% back, make them invest in better, faster boats, increase the risk of being sent somewhere else for processing - will all make another destination more attractive.

2) their economic plans are a joke, they would just cause a run on the pound

They have time to evolve and they will

3) they want to slash public services meaning they would harm the poor communities that vote for them

they will trim the edges, they wont make big changes

4) they would cut taxes for the wealthy, so Motorbiking would be most happy, he doesn’t care if people starve.

They will encourage wealthy people to domicile in the UK. Do you need a reminder of who pays all the taxes?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Despite its flaws, their plan is better than the current plan. Pay the French Millions to look the other way. As I have correctly told you dozens of times, there are many ways to make the small boat crossings less financially attractive to the smugglers. Turn 20% back, make them invest in better, faster boats, increase the risk of being sent somewhere else for processing - will all make another destination more attractive.

None of which is legal.
We've discussed it over many, many pages, probably not for the first time.
And we'll probably discuss it over and over again some more yet.

 

[motorbiking]

None of which is legal.
We've discussed it over many, many pages, probably not for the first time.
And we'll probably discuss it over and over again some more yet.

Reform are proposing to leave the ECHR. Assuming they do, what law do you think makes Push backs in the way I've described illegal?

 

[Highway Man]

What would they actually do in reality

1) They wouldn’t stop the small boats because their policy is not legal

2) their economic plans are a joke, they would just cause a run on the pound

3) they want to slash public services meaning they would harm the poor communities that vote for them

4) they would cut taxes for the wealthy, so Motorbiking would be most happy, he doesn’t care if people starve.

A bit over dramatic. You was the same when Trump got in and now look how things are turning out.

 

[Odds]

A bit over dramatic. You was the same when Trump got in and now look how things are turning out.

Well, he hasn't ended the war in Ukraine, nor negotiated a successful deal in Palestine, so the Nobel Committee won't be impressed.
He's backed down in his trade war with China.

And Republicans aren't impressed with his economic policy.

Did you have something in mind?

 

[Highway Man]

Well, he hasn't ended the war in Ukraine, nor negotiated a successful deal in Palestine, so the Nobel Committee won't be impressed.
He's backed down in his trade war with China.

And Republicans aren't impressed with his economic policy.

Did you have something in mind?

Apart from that at least he had a go.

 

[Notch7]

Despite its flaws, their plan is better than the current plan

It is not a plan, it’s just rancid bullsh1t.

Reform Party do not have a plan to solve small boats.

Reform party have vague aspirations based on bullsh1t policies

Reforms plans are: tow the boats back to France.

How many times do,I have to tell you: you can’t do it without agreement with France


Motorbiking just keeps repeating the same lie, thinking if he does it often enough he will get away with. He won’t.

 

[Notch7]

Apart from that at least he had a go.

No he didnt.

Trump is an effing liar. End of.

 

[Notch7]

You was the same when Trump got in and now look how things are turning out.

Eh?

Trump caused a run on the bond market and had to back down quickly

America has now seen its credit rating drop

Tariffs are causing damage across America in many sectors.

 

[Notch7]

Reform are proposing to leave the ECHR. Assuming they do, what law do you think makes Push backs in the way I've described illegal?

You’ve been claiming pushbacks are legal

Now you are saying we have to leave ECHR to make them legal.


Motorbiking is Full of sh1t

 

[motorbiking]

How many times do,I have to tell you: you can’t do it without agreement with France


Motorbiking just keeps repeating the same lie, thinking if he does it often enough he will get away with. He won’t.

A dishonest lie.

You seem to do it a lot.

 

[Notch7]

A dishonest lie.

You seem to do it a lot.

you have spent 40+ pages trying dozens of different scenarios and every single one is BULLSH1T



heres a bunch of your lying attempts, every one of them proven WRONG:


A) British boat enters French waters to pick up migrants in distress -it CANT drop them in a French port without permission

B) British boat enters French waters to push back migrants -it CANT do that its not legal

C) British boat pushes back boats to stop them entering English waters -It CANT do that because you cant prove the boat is not in distress

D) British boat in British water collect migrants and takes them to France -it CANT do that

 

[motorbiking]

You’ve been claiming pushbacks are legal

Now you are saying we have to leave ECHR to make them legal.


Motorbiking is Full of sh1t

You've deliberately misunderstood again. How dishonest.

Push backs are legal I've quoted the power the coastal state has to prevent passage that is not innocent, at least a dozen times. That does not stop a person bringing a claim that their rights were violated by their treatment.

 

[Notch7]

Reform are proposing to leave the ECHR

breaks Good Friday Agreement

it would never get through parliament


only stupid c***s would allow a right wing populist to remove protections for citizens

 

[motorbiking]

you have spent 40+ pages trying dozens of different scenarios and every single one is BULLSH1T



heres a bunch of your lying attempts, every one of them proven WRONG:


A) British boat enters French waters to pick up migrants in distress -it CANT drop them in a French port without permission

It can - it happens daily all over the world.

B) British boat enters French waters to push back migrants -it CANT do that its not legal

you are lying again - I've not suggested this

C) British boat pushes back boats to stop them entering English waters -It CANT do that because you cant prove the boat is not in distress

nonsense - you don't understand the rules.

D) British boat in British water collect migrants and takes them to France -it CANT do that

you are lying again - I've not suggested this

4/4 wrong. well done