The two Bobs

[MNW67]

Of course it would, chanting the death of anyone regardless who they are, military or not would be considered a hate crime today.

AFAIK, I don't think that is true. If I chanted for a person to be killed simply because I didn't like them, that wouldn't make it a hate crime, unless it was based on one of the hate crime characteristics.

 

[motorbiking]

AFAIK, I don't think that is true. If I chanted for a person to be killed simply because I didn't like them, that wouldn't make it a hate crime, unless it was based on one of the hate crime characteristics.

Nope - do you need me to walk you through the law [Joke]

 

[MNW67]

Nope

Please explain. I've never been interested in criminal law.

 

[Highway Man]

Please explain. I've never been interested in criminal law.

Obviously

 

[MNW67]

This is what the CPS says:

The law recognises five types of hate crime on the basis of:

• Race
• Religion
• Disability
• Sexual orientation
• Transgender identity

 

[motorbiking]

Forget hate crime for moment:

Start with sec 4 /4A public order act.

Public Order Act 1986

An Act to abolish the common law offences of riot, rout, unlawful assembly and affray and certain statutory offences relating to public order; to create new offences relating to public order; to control public processions and assemblies; to control the stirring up of racial hatred; to provide...

www.legislation.gov.uk

 

[MNW67]

Forget hate crime for moment:

You mean I was right

 

[Highway Man]

This is what the CPS says:

well your hardly going to be chanting death to the British military (Except for the Muslims and any other religion)

 

[MNW67]

well your hardly going to be chanting death to the British military (Except for the Muslims and any other religion)

We are clearly talking at cross purposes. I don't have much energy today and there's lots to do. So, it's better just to leave it.

 

[Highway Man]

We are clearly talking at cross purposes. I don't much energy today. So, it's better just to leave it.

I am still traumatised by my dog attack, just got home now to recover.

 

[motorbiking]

You mean I was right

Do you think Asylum seeker fits:

This is what the CPS says:

• Race
• Religion
• Disability
• Sexual orientation
• Transgender identity

Seems the courts are happy to accept a broad definition.

 

[Stivino]

I am still traumatised by my dog attack

How is the dog?

 

[noseall]

Asking for death to an institution is not the same as asking people to attack individuals.
Even MBK with his limited grasp of the law, knows it.

 

[noseall]

How is the dog?

He's had his jabs.

 

[motorbiking]

Asking for death to an institution is not the same as asking people to attack individuals.
Even MBK with his limited grasp of the law, knows it.

So no crime to answer then?

Not even Sec 4A public order?

Your man Starmer seems to think it was Hate speech and Nandy.