The French supply Ireland with power

[AndyPRK]

personally I like the Swiss sockets. Also a similar version being adopted in south Africa. And somewhere in South America uses them too.

Compact.
Can accept the 2 pin euro plug
polarity kept (when 3 pin used)

 

[morqthana]

It's an up-scaled version of a "CEE 7/1" socket with no earth connection.

1) Eric described it as having an earth pin

2) It does have an earth pin

3) Looks like a CEE 7/5 to me

 

[plugwash]

1) Eric described it as having an earth pin

The picture in eric's post has an earth pin and is a CEE 7/5.

The socket in the original video has neither an earth pin, nor earth clips, nor the distinctive cavity shape of a Shuko. The real-world socket it it most closely resembles is a CEE 7/1

 

[SUNRAY]

1) Eric described it as having an earth pin

2) It does have an earth pin

View attachment 390160

3) Looks like a CEE 7/5 to me

View attachment 390161

I'm reading replies in a thread, most are in a humorous light hearted basis and then: Yet again start thinking: 'Oh no here we go again'

Yes, very funny, all the way to France, and a German socket, the French socket has the earth pin sticking out View attachment 390034as with UK non-reversible plugs and sockets.

Edited for clarity I'm curious, morqthana do you need an eye test? do you need to go back to school and learn to read? You accuse me of having a personal vendetta against you but yet again I see you completely twisting what others are saying, is it some sort of learning difficulty or is it some sort of obtuse attempt at humour.

So please stop being a dick, go back, read it again in a way that

would read it and then behave like

and have the guts to apologise to Eric please.

MODS: Please feel free to remove this and post #17 to get the thread back on track.

 

[ericmark]

Come on, the whole thing was a joke, in the best Dave Allan style.

 

[morqthana]

The picture in eric's post has an earth pin and is a CEE 7/5.

The socket in the original video has neither an earth pin, nor earth clips, nor the distinctive cavity shape of a Shuko. The real-world socket it it most closely resembles is a CEE 7/1

The problem is that as you quoted Eric's post, which had a photo of a socket in it, it looked like you were commenting on the socket in Eric's post.

 

[morqthana]

I'm reading replies in a thread, most are in a humorous light hearted basis

A lot weren't. In fact, most weren't. No's 2, 4-13, & 16 weren't humorous. i.e. almost all of them.

and then: Yet again start thinking: 'Oh no here we go again'

But you're right about "Oh no here we go again", as in "Oh no here we go again with another of your personal attacks on me".

Yes, very funny, all the way to France, and a German socket, the French socket has the earth pin sticking out View attachment 390034as with UK non-reversible plugs and sockets.

I'm curious, do you need an eye test? do you need to go back to school and learn to read? You accuse me of having a personal vendetta against you but yet again I see you completely twisting what others are saying, is it some sort of learning difficulty or is it some sort of obtuse attempt at humour.

Why are you saying all those things to Eric?

So please stop being a dick, go back, read it again in a way thatView attachment 390189would read it and then behave likeView attachment 390190 and have the guts to apologise to Eric please.

I am getting truly sick of you. You're criticising me for (apparently) saying something to Eric which merits an apology, and yet I didn't write anything to Eric, the only post I'd made before you launched into that abusive rant at me was a reply to plugwash.

And yet here you are, accusing me of twisting things, calling me a dick, asking if I have learning difficulties.

But no, you don't have a personal vendetta against me. Perish the thought.

 

[plugwash]

But no, you don't have a personal vendetta against me. Perish the thought.

No he doesn't, you are just an idiot who can't read a ****ing post.

To clarify the timeline for all the slow people in the back.

* The original video was posted.
* Eric posted a reply claiming the socket in the video was german and posting a picture of a modern french CEE 7/5 socket.
* I replied to his claim about the socket being german pointing not a modern german type, but was modelled on the older CEE 7/1 unearthed socket. I was not however 100% sure if said unearthed socket had been used in france.
* Ragner confirmed that the unearthed CEE 7/1 sockets were in fact used in france

 

[blup]

Does anyone think there was an asylum seeker hidden in the plug, if so a golden opportunity to turn this into an immigrant hating thread, might even get transferred to GD

 

[SUNRAY]

A lot weren't. In fact, most weren't. No's 2, 4-13, & 16 weren't humorous. i.e. almost all of them.




But you're right about "Oh no here we go again", as in "Oh no here we go again with another of your personal attacks on me".




Why are you saying all those things to Eric?




I am getting truly sick of you. You're criticising me for (apparently) saying something to Eric which merits an apology, and yet I didn't write anything to Eric, the only post I'd made before you launched into that abusive rant at me was a reply to plugwash.

And yet here you are, accusing me of twisting things, calling me a dick, asking if I have learning difficulties.

But no, you don't have a personal vendetta against me. Perish the thought.

Just in case you have forgotten what you stated here is a screen print

You then went on to include Erics image of what the French socket should have looked like in his opinion. In my opinion Erics and Plugwashes posts are clearly written and unambiguous so excuse me for correctly reading the way you wrote your incorrect reply.

Incase you still don't understand: Eric stated the socket in the OP media was incorrect for France by calling it a German socket and added an image and description, to demonstrate what it should have been for France.

Just to clarify: Nothing in my pos#19 was aimed at Eric — the whole of that post apart from the last line is totally aimed at you and unfortunately assumed (and yes you have proved how silly it is to assume) that

would have realised I'd included Erics post so you and everybody else didn't have to go off and search for what I referred to, as you didn't reference it I didn't add it into my quote of your post because that would have been misrepresentation or in your vernacular (hmm perhaps I shouldn't use that term as I believe it relates to ordinary people) that would be lying. For clarity I have amended my post#19 so nobody from now on can read it as as aimed at the wrong person.

To Eric: I offer my very sincere apologies if you read my post as a criticism of you or your message, it was not aimed at you or your balanced comment.

To Mods: Please feel free to delete this message along with posts# 17, 19 & 22 to get the thread back to the lighthearted way it was intended.

 

[morqthana]

Just in case you have forgotten what you stated here is a screen printView attachment 390264

A screen print which shows that my post was a reply to plugwash, and that I'd said not a word to eric.

So tell me what it is I said to or about eric which means I should apologise to him?

Also, please note, that whoever you think my post was directed at, even if you think it was critical of someone, nowhere in it did I call anybody a dick, nowhere in it did I wonder if someone had a learning difficulty.

You then went on to include Erics image of what the French socket should have looked like in his opinion. In my opinion Erics and Plugwashes posts are clearly written and unambiguous so excuse me for correctly reading the way you wrote your incorrect reply.

But you're not "correctly reading" it. You are so consumed with personal animosity towards me that you "read" anything you don't like, or think is wrong, as "twisting". You view it as having malicious intent. And you think it gives you carte blanche to abuse and insult me.

But no, you don't have a personal vendetta against me. Perish the thought.

Incase you still don't understand: Eric stated the socket in the OP media was incorrect for France by calling it a German socket and added an image and description, to demonstrate what it should have been for France.

In case you still don't understand, I replied to plugwash's post which appeared to me to be a comment on/reply to eric's post with a picture of a socket.

Just to clarify: Nothing in my pos#19 was aimed at Eric

You need to learn the syntax of quoting and replying then. With no introduction of the quote, for example "For reference, this is what eric wrote", or "I'd like to remind you that eric said this", what you did was to quote eric, and write immediately after it.

as you didn't reference it I didn't add it into my quote of your post because that would have been misrepresentation or in your vernacular (hmm perhaps I shouldn't use that term as I believe it relates to ordinary people) that would be lying.

The reason you couldn't have put it in your quote of my post was because it wasn't in my post.

If it had have been you could quite correctly have put something along these lines in yours:

Yes, very funny, all the way to France, and a German socket, the French socket has the earth pin sticking out View attachment 390034as with UK non-reversible plugs and sockets.

{what I wrote to eric in reply}

But it wasn't there because I didn't write anything to eric.

 

[morqthana]

PS.

To Mods: Please feel free to delete this message along with posts# 17, 19 & 22 to get the thread back to the lighthearted way it was intended.

I made one, civilly worded post which you thought was mistaken.

You then launched into a personal attack on me, using abuse and insults. That (inevitably) mushroomed because there is not a snowball's chance in Hell that I'm not going to push back against things like that. And you have the gall to criticise me for irrelevant posts which do nothing but create havoc with valid and sensible advice offered by others.

 

[morqthana]

No he doesn't, you are just an idiot who can't read a ****ing post.

Thank you for your measured, polite, reply.

 

[ericmark]

Don't really know what you're apologising for? This is just a light-hearted thread, back in 1980 I worked for a Dutch company in Algeria, and I can't remember what sockets were in our cabins, you could work out if the camp electrician was Dutch or English, voltage 240 if English 220 if Dutch.

I know we had a problem with in cup boilers, they had caused a few fires, and had been banned, but that did not stop people using them.

I think power is moved to Europe or to UK as DC, but not sure on that?

In the UK, panels made in Europe have presented a problem, where often the Schuko socket was put inside the panel to power laptops when monitoring the PLC. There has been many of a debate as to if allowed, as they are inside a panel, so not for anyone to use, and in the main laptops are class II, and often not enough room to change them to BS1363.

At one time you could get BS1363 plugs with the lead so if pulled it would simply unplug, ⁣but

for some reason most plugs have the lead out of the bottom, so pulling the lead, as when one trips over the lead, causes the plug to be damaged, and causes a health and safety issue causing a fall, rather than simply unplugging. And I have seen many times a plug work its way out of the socket, so it does not stop that happening.

Even the version for the disabled has the cable out of the bottom. This

seems to be the way around the problem, and odd there is no rule to say can't be used, and it does allow line and neutral reversal.

 

[SUNRAY]

A screen print which shows that my post was a reply to plugwash, and that I'd said not a word to eric.

So tell me what it is I said to or about eric which means I should apologise to him?

Also, please note, that whoever you think my post was directed at, even if you think it was critical of someone, nowhere in it did I call anybody a dick, nowhere in it did I wonder if someone had a learning difficulty.




But you're not "correctly reading" it. You are so consumed with personal animosity towards me that you "read" anything you don't like, or think is wrong, as "twisting". You view it as having malicious intent. And you think it gives you carte blanche to abuse and insult me.

But no, you don't have a personal vendetta against me. Perish the thought.




In case you still don't understand, I replied to plugwash's post which appeared to me to be a comment on/reply to eric's post with a picture of a socket.




You need to learn the syntax of quoting and replying then. With no introduction of the quote, for example "For reference, this is what eric wrote", or "I'd like to remind you that eric said this", what you did was to quote eric, and write immediately after it.




The reason you couldn't have put it in your quote of my post was because it wasn't in my post.

If it had have been you could quite correctly have put something along these lines in yours:



But it wasn't there because I didn't write anything to eric.

Just for the record You stated

1) Eric described it as having an earth pin

He didn't