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Are the border force and the RNLI losing their touch?

Si_ said:
What, specifically, is nonsense? Your lack of evidence that boat arrivals face death and torture if returned, or that if you keep your focus you'll get there in the end?
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I'm not going to indulge in a semantic yawnathon. But keep going if you wish.
 
MNW67 said:
I'm not going to indulge in a semantic yawnathon. But keep going if you wish.
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Don't worry, that was a different type of question - a rhetorical question. We all know you can't prove your claim, I was just having a bit of fun.
 
carmanmemoranda said:
Do you seriously not understand the difference ?
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No. They are both helping poor, persecuted, law abiding refugees to enter our country illegally with no papers or checks on who they are. Only difference I can see is that the lorry driver might bring just a couple a day whereas the RNLI brings a thousand over in one day.
 
Mottie said:
So walking from safe Italy to safe France to safe Germany is perilous?
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noseall said:
Yes
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Mottie said:
No. They are both helping poor, persecuted, law abiding refugees to enter our country illegally with no papers or checks on who they are. Only difference I can see is that the lorry driver might bring just a couple a day whereas the RNLI brings a thousand over in one day.
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No, not right at all.

Try thinking a bit further.
 
carmanmemoranda said:
Nobody is saying welcome, or that's good.

But there is a difference between rescue and deliberate clandestine smuggling.
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Perhaps the lorry driver should seat them in his cab for all to see. Would that be allowed? Personally, if we are picking up thousands of unknown people mid channel and just ferrying them to the U.K. and letting them come and go from hotels as they please, I can’t see why we should bother with border force or passport control any more. Can you?
 
Mottie said:
Perhaps the lorry driver should seat them in his cab for all to see. Would that be allowed? Personally, if we are picking up thousands of unknown people mid channel and just ferrying them to the U.K. and letting them come and go from hotels as they please, I can’t see why we should bother with border force or passport control any more. Can you?
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No wonder Reform suits you
 
carmanmemoranda said:
No wonder Reform suits you
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What’s the difference with us picking up Karim* with no papers from mid channel and taxiing him to a hotel and letting Mahummad walk through passport control at Heathrow without checking his documents?

*We'll call him Karim because that’s who he tells us he is.
 
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