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20 point Gaza peace plan (Is Trump one step closer to Nobel Peace Prize?)

noseall said:
I thought the pager attack was not only ingenious, but ruthless and audacious. Underestimate Mossad at your peril.
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It was but sadly not enough people realise how much of a factor that was in bringing some form of stability to Lebanon and Syria who are both actively in negotiations with Israel. :(
 
diy_fun_uk said:
Yes the general consensus seems to be they're closer now then ever before, the coming days and weeks will tell I suppose.

If it was possible to speak to Hamas leaders and get a truthful answer from them, I wonder what they would say re what/who was the main contributing factor to them considering to lay down their arms.

Surely the high majority of it must be down to Trump? I wonder how much they would put it down to Europe and our condemnations, marches etc?
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I'd like to think so but in reality I suspect that the various Arab nations backing the plan was equally influential. Hamas know the games up and will have to go into exile, I suspect they'd prefer to be exiled to Qatar or Turkey rather than Iran.
Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi and Qatar all threw their wight behind Trumps plan and deserve to be applauded.
 
fillyboy said:
I'd like to think so but in reality I suspect that the various Arab nations backing the plan was equally influential. Hamas know the games up and will have to go into exile, I suspect they'd prefer to be exiled to Qatar or Turkey rather than Iran.
Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi and Qatar all threw their wight behind Trumps plan and deserve to be applauded.
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Nope leave Pakistan out of it, they say plan was altered
fillyboy said:
It was but sadly not enough people realise how much of a factor that was in bringing some form of stability to Lebanon and Syria who are both actively in negotiations with Israel. :(
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What a joke, the zionazis n Trump are holding a gun to their heads, sign up or else.
 
noseall said:
I thought the pager attack was not only ingenious, but ruthless and audacious. Underestimate Mossad at your peril.
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And random. Children are known to be curious about electronic gadgets.
Just watch a toddler with a phone.
 
diy_fun_uk said:
I wonder how much they would put it down to Europe and our condemnations, marches etc?
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The marches raises an interesting point, Australia had a huge number of pro Palestine marches, and like the UK, attacks on Synagues, Jewish restaurants etc. Australian intelligence uncovered that at least three of the attacks were coordinated by Iran together with funding for the marches.
The Iranian Ambassador and much of his team were expelled from Australia in August. Albanese stated that Iran was breaking down social cohesion in the country.

I suspect similar is happening in this country but it's a rabbit hole Starmer doesn't want to go down.
 
fillyboy said:
The marches raises an interesting point, Australia had a huge number of pro Palestine marches, and like the UK, attacks on Synagues, Jewish restaurants etc. Australian intelligence uncovered that at least three of the attacks were coordinated by Iran together with funding for the marches.
The Iranian Ambassador and much of his team were expelled from Australia in August. Albanese stated that Iran was breaking down social cohesion in the country.

I suspect similar is happening in this country but it's a rabbit hole Starmer doesn't want to go down.
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Source? Or another attempt at disinformation? :rolleyes:
 
Well may be the Israelis have done the gay community in Gaza a good turn ????

Hamas won’t be able to throw them off tall buildings any more as there are none left ???
 
Your on ignore you fruit cake himmy

Assuming what ever you said was in response to the tall buildings / gays
 
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