How to add a ceiling light to a loop system?

[budest]

Hi guys,

I have a single ceiling light in the attic which I believe to be the end of the loop? If I wanted to add another light in the attic, how can I take a feed from this rose?

With basic understanding of electrics I gather that the rose has a live, neutral and earth coming from the junction box and the wiring from the light I installed which doesn’t require an earth (led batten).

Thanks in advance.

 

[EFLImpudence]

If I wanted to add another light in the attic, how can I take a feed from this rose?

You can only do that if you want both lights operated by the same switch.

You just connect the new light's cable to the same terminals as the existing light.

Use a cable with an earth wire just in case you need it in the future but terminate it in a separate connector.

 

[Taylortwocities]

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[budest]

You do not have loop at the light itself, so there is no permanent live there. Or you may have loop in at the switch- photo please.
Or you may have a junction box, somewhere.
More detective work needed so we can think of a solution for you.

Thanks for the reply.

So the rose in the picture is in the attic and the light switch is in the landing below. My guess is the wiring runs under the floorboards in the attic then up under the roof insulation to the rose.

What if I did away with the rose and just used Wagos? 2x 3 ports for blue and browns and another for the earths?

 

[blup]

Put wagos within the accessory or in a wagon box for protection. Otherwise just link the new cable to the switched live and neutral terminals used by the existing light fitting.

 

[budest]

Put wagos within the accessory or in a wagon box for protection. Otherwise just link the new cable to the switched live and neutral terminals used by the existing light fitting.

Thanks for that.

Is it safe for another brown wire to share the same switched live terminal screw?

 

[terryplumb]

Is it safe for another brown wire to share the same switched live terminal screw?

Yes it's safe to have 2 live wires in the same terminal in the ceiling rose.

 

[budest]

Yes it's safe to have 2 live wires in the same terminal in the ceiling rose.

Thanks Terry.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Is it safe for another brown wire to share the same switched live terminal screw?

Better for each wire to have their own terminal. Simply move the two brown wires to the unused 3 terminal block in the middle, then you'll have a spare terminal for the live and for the neutral going to your additional light.

 

[budest]

Better for each wire to have their own terminal. Simply move the two brown wires to the unused 3 terminal block in the middle, then you'll have a spare terminal for the live and for the neutral going to your additional light.

I had wondered if that was doable but as this is not my field, I was skeptical and thought it too silly to ask. Thanks Taylor.