It’s not fair, is it?

[Mottie]

Why? I was just clarifying your view

My view is quite clear, what do you need clarifying. Whether I 'need' all my entitlements or wages, what I don’t 'need' is neither here nor there. Do you 'need' every penny that comes into your house?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Yes or no?

Your question was premised on erroneous assumptions.
In order to give you a sensible answer, I first have to correct your erroneous assumption.
So sorry, I don't play by your rules.

If I was to take your question at face value, I would say, "yes", absolutely, every time.
But you wouldn't understand why I answered "yes".
If you reread my answer to your question the first time, you might be able to guess where your error was that gave rise to my answer.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Those organisations cannot help every veteran and please stop googling things and making out that you are some expert. You understand nothing.

The veterans have to apply for their help.
Of course they can't help every veteran. Not every veteran needs help.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

The MOD look out for you whilst you are serving, they are not a care company to look after you once your service has ended. Right or wrong that is the brutal truth, the MOD have a compensation scheme but it is difficult to get any help other than that from them.

If you apply to the relevant organisations you will get help.
Perhaps not as much as you were hoping for, but that's life.

 

[pete01]

Your question was premised on erroneous assumptions.
In order to give you a sensible answer, I first have to correct your erroneous assumption.
So sorry, I don't play by your rules.

If I was to take your question at face value, I would say, "yes", absolutely, every time.
But you wouldn't understand why I answered "yes".
If you reread my answer to your question the first time, you might be able to guess where your error was that gave rise to my answer.

So people who are here illegally come before people who fought for the country?

Ive never been in the army but some of my family members are/have been, my Grandad fought in WW2....

Go away mate....

Typo corrected.....oopppssss

 

[Knave of Hearts]

View attachment 394955View attachment 394956

View attachment 394958

View attachment 394959


I've posted numerous times of the pains I go to to get free ladies feminine products through vouchers to put in the food bank collection boxes.

Now, it’s alright you saying you care for the poor and I don’t but I’ve shown you just a few examples of what I have actually done for the poor, can you now return the favour and show me some posts where you have actually done something about it yourself?

Most of us don't feel the need to record proof of our kindness.

 

[robinbanks]

https://www.bigissue.com/opinion/housing-refugees-commonweal/ is an interesting reminder of the situation for refugees that I've seen first-hand; while they're asylum seekers theyre relatively well looked after. As soon as their application is approved and they transaition to being refugees (technically become "our own" much as it might upset some to think of it that way), they find themselves kicked out of their former accommodation, with no good way to establish any more (go rent something? with what money? what references?)

There are fundamental transition flaws that need addressing, undoubtedly

All in, stirring up ire by posting on an internet forum will achieve little; self-evidently charitable sorts could have a much more positive impact in other ways

 

[Knave of Hearts]

So people who are here illegally come before people who fought for the country?

Ive never been in the army but some of my family members are/have been, my grandad faught in WW2....

Go away mate....

Oh God! I'm going to have to explain it because some dunderhead premised his question on an erroneous basis.

Asylum seekers are not illegal, they're waiting for the result of their application for asylum.

Anyone in society who is illegal, e.g. convicted criminals on the run, etc, should be housed... in prison.


And your grandad fought in WW2. So did my Grandad, and my Dad, and some Uncles. and Aunts.
My Grandfather lost an arm and a foot, (WW1) and lived in a house provided by the Haig Trust. Those Haig houses still exist, and house many veterans. Obviously my Grandfather is long gone.
But that's why I am so familiar with the Haig Trust.

 

[pete01]

Oh God! I'm going to have to explain it because some dunderhead premised his question on an erroneous basis.

Asylum seekers are not illegal, they're waiting for the result of their application for asylum.

Anyone in society who is illegal, e.g. convicted criminals on the run, etc, should be housed... in prison.


And your grandad fought in WW2. So did my Grandad, and my Dad, and some Uncles. and Aunts.
My Grandfather lost an arm and a foot, (WW1) and lived in a house provided by the Haig Trust. Those Haig houses still exist, and house many veterans. Obviously my Grandfather is long gone.
But that's why I am so familiar with the Haig Trust.

Yeah yeah spelling mistake..... whatever ....

If you come into the country on a boat without a passport it's illegal....

 

[Highway Man]

Asylum seekers are not illegal, they're waiting for the result of their application for asylum.

Anyone in society who is illegal, e.g. convicted criminals on the run, etc, should be housed... in prison.

It is illegal if they have entered the country by illegal means, ie the small boats and paying traffickers 5k to come here, it is also illegal for these illegals to work whilst claiming assylum. The whole thing is illegal.

 

[Notch7]

Can you show me the percentage of those on benefits that are not scroungers or shall I be line you and pick a number out of the air? Is there some data somewhere? No. Well stop asking such bloody stupid questions.

By using the term “benefit scroungers” without qualifying who, you are stereotyping everybody on benefits as a scrounger.

The reality is that 96% of people on benefits are genuine

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-05-15/debates/25051545000020/BenefitSystemFraudAndError#:~:text=The%20annual%20statistics%20for%20fraud,billion)%20in%202023%2D24.

 

[Notch7]

It is illegal if they have entered the country by illegal means, ie the small boats and paying traffickers 5k to come here, it is also illegal for these illegals to work whilst claiming assylum. The whole thing is illegal.

It is not illegal to cross a border to claim asylum.

An asylum seeker is a legal status


I don’t blame them for working, it’s better they keep busy

 

[Highway Man]

It is not illegal to cross a border to claim asylum.

An asylum seeker is a legal status


I don’t blame them for working, it’s better they keep busy

More the merrier eh?

 

[ellal]

The MOD look out for you whilst you are serving, they are not a care company to look after you once your service has ended. Right or wrong that is the brutal truth, the MOD have a compensation scheme but it is difficult to get any help other than that from them.

As I said, the MOD don't care...

They use servicemen to do the politicians dirty work and then discard them...

Other services are supposed to pick up the pieces, but the government doesn't care either...

And for anyone to think that any money 'saved' from lessening the impact of immigration would be used for the homeless are living in cloud cuckoo land...

Because that promise on the side of a bus didn't work out that well did it, so why would any other 'promise'/lie fare any dfferently

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Yeah yeah spelling mistake..... whatever ....

If you come into the country on a boat without a passport it's illegal....

As soon as they land and claim asylum they are no longer here illegally.
So between landing and claiming asylum, they do not receive any assistance in the way of accommodation, and they are homeless.

Again you are grossly unaware of reality, ask erroneous questions, and make comments based on your erroneous assumptions.