Motability Cars

[Mottie]

That your whinging about the costs needed in getting the money back into the system

Taxes etc

I thought it went back into the system when she did a £20Bn tax raid last time. Now she 'needs' another £40Bn. It’ll be £60Bn by the next budget going on her previous form. We all knew it didn’t just fall off the money tree and was going to have to be put back into the system at some point so the idiots were those that could have had it but didn’t. I don’t regret taking what I was entitled to in the slightest. It’s just Ellie that keeps whinging about it - like I was the only one in the country that got it. He got it too. All care home workers got it.

 

[Mottie]

I'm not sure hwm has the right to impede pedestrians without making some provision for them to get past.

You're not sure? That’s not like you, I thought you knew everything?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Was you working at the time, Harry?

Nope, retired.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You're not sure? That’s not like you, I thought you knew everything?

No more than you do

 

[morqthana]

Were'nt the 10% found to be fraudulent, but only 0.4% applied to the motability scheme?

No - it was 10% of those reported.

Not every claimant gets reported, only those doing something which "looks suspicious". Or are unlucky enough to live near a RWL who's drunk the populist Kool-Aid and is looking for a minority group to kick to make themselves feel better.

0.4% is the fraud level in PIP. Across the entire benefits system (i.e. including pensions, universal credit, housing benefit etc) the rate is 2.2%.

PIP claimants, the group being kicked here for being car-blaggers and workshy malingerers are the most honest of all claimants.

They don't break the data down any further, but as only 37% of PIP claimants get the high rate we could reasonably estimate that 0.15% of PIP payments which could have got somebody a car were fraudulent.

 

[Highway Man]

I'd be more than a bit peeved if someone was blocking the foothpath for 15 minutes, and I had to wait in my wheelchair or even worse had to stand for 15 minutes!
I think it would be good to have a face to face with the idiot that thought he could block the pavement for 15 minutes and the young mothers and the disabled would not mind waiting in the cold or the heat.
Meanwhile the car drivers would be sitting in their air conditioned cars, or with the heater on, listening to their favourite music with the windows up, and not a care in the world.

You can always cross the road elsewhere you dont have to wait.

 

[morqthana]

Don't know the answer as I dont know everything like you

You're quick enough to "know" what isn't right.

I don't know everything, but when I don't know, I either find out or keep quiet.

What I don't do is to invent things I don't like to fill in the gaps in my knowledge so that I can then moan about them.

 

[Highway Man]

I don't know everything, but when I don't know, I either find out or keep quiet.

You should re word that to, you don't know anything and so I find out by Google because I have no knowledge of my own. What a pity you don't just keep quiet like you say.

 

[pete01]

You're quick enough to "know" what isn't right.

I don't know everything, but when I don't know, I either find out or keep quiet.

What I don't do is to invent things I don't like to fill in the gaps in my knowledge so that I can then moan about them.

Bore off

 

[morqthana]

#286 & #287 - posts from people who, frustrated by their own lack of ability to engage in intelligent discussions, resort to abuse.

 

[pete01]

#286 & #287 - posts from people who, frustrated by their own lack of ability to engage in intelligent discussions, resort to abuse.

See post #287

 

[Deleted member 325510]

Which doesn't really address the question - How come those who get the PIP before they retire still keep the PIP after they retire, but if you begin to need PIP after you reach retirement, then you cannot have it?

Of course it addresses the question. If they were already receiving PIP before retirement, they will continue to receive it, and they are living longer.
13.1 million pensioners in 2025 compared to 12.7 million pensioners in 2022. That is an increase of about 400,000 pensioners every 3 years.
As of July 2025 650,000 pensioners were receiving PIP. That has been and will continue to increase year on year.

 

[Deleted member 325510]

If the system's wrong then don't blame the people benefitting from it.

Blame the people in charge of it.

Does that hold true for immigration? For the apparent loss of culture, for the supposed overpopulation, for the NHS waiting lists, etc?
Don't blame the immigrants, blame the government?

 

[Brigadier]

Which doesn't really address the question - How come those who get the PIP before they retire still keep the PIP after they retire, but if you begin to need PIP after you reach retirement, then you cannot have it?

Likely because - dropping dead or being the one-in-a-thousand-fit-as-a-flea pensioner excepted - most retirees would qualify just by dint of "normal" aging.


From the Gov website:

Eligibility:
You can get Personal Independence Payment (PIP) if all of the following apply to you:

• you’re 16 or over
• you have a long-term physical or mental health condition or disability
• you have difficulty doing certain everyday tasks or getting around
• you expect the difficulties to last for at least 12 months from when they started

Retirees who did not previously have a PIP in place can apply for Attendance Allowance instead.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Of course it addresses the question. If they were already receiving PIP before retirement, they will continue to receive it, and they are living longer.

Actually, it doesn't address the question in the slightest.....

Why are some pensioners eligible for PIP, simply because they were awarded it before retirement age, whereas other pensioners, with similar or even worse health issues cannot have PIP, because their health issues began after retirement age.