why do people support Reform when they have no idea of their policies

[Brigadier]

That's easy - cut spending too. It's out of control - loads of low-hanging fruit.

Or rejoin the customs union.

£90 billion a year gain right there

 

[Andydevon]

£90 billion a year gain right there

Evidence?

 

[Brigadier]

Evidence?

R5L tonight
HoC library report

Brexit costing UK up to £90bn in lost tax revenue , new analysis shows

Exclusive: Britons also up to £3,700 worse off, leading to calls for the Labour government to improve relations with the EU

www.independent.co.uk

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Not to mention the small matter of Labour bringing in 20 million hostile foreigners to live at our expense.

More russian trolling.

Tell me where labour went to get these 20 million.

20 million. Come on then, back up your figures.

 

[fillyboy]

R5L tonight
HoC library report

Brexit costing UK up to £90bn in lost tax revenue , new analysis shows

Exclusive: Britons also up to £3,700 worse off, leading to calls for the Labour government to improve relations with the EU

www.independent.co.uk

How are France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc doing?, they're still in the EU.

 

[Notch7]

That's easy - cut spending too. It's out of control - loads of low-hanging fruit.

Oh really

How is spending out of control?

NHS waiting lists are 8 million
Mental health service is in a terrible state
Social care is in a terrible state
Criminal justice system is in a terrible state
Maternity is massively underfunded
A and E have patients in corridors


Perhaps you mean the cost of borrowing because Tories ramped up debt to,100% of gdp

Or do you mean the £100b spaffed up the wall on brexit
Or do you mean the £4.2b spaffed up the wall on bogus PPE contracts to Tory mates
Or do you mean the Lighthouse private testing labs
Or do you mean the £30b on test n trace
Or do you mean the £800 on Rwanda scheme
Or do you mean the billions given to Clearspring (Tory donor) for over 400 asylum hotels


Oh and then there’s the ongoing damage caused by brexit

by 2025 brexit has

1) reduced Uk gdp by 6% to 8%

2) reduced investment by between 12% and 18%

3) reduced employment by 3% to 4%

4) reduced productivity by 3% to 4%

 

[Notch7]

How are France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc doing?, they're still in the EU.

They all have far higher standards of living, better health services, decent roads without potholes, better public services.

Oh and in any case it’s irrelevant because it’s not how other EU nations are doing, it’s how UK would be doing if it stayed.


by 2025 brexit has

1) reduced Uk gdp by 6% to 8%

2) reduced investment by between 12% and 18%

3) reduced employment by 3% to 4%

4) reduced productivity by 3% to 4%


Silly Filly hates the EU because the Germans bombed a distant relative

 

[carmanmemoranda]

They all have far higher standards of living, better health services, decent roads without potholes, better public services.

Yes

Oh and in any case it’s irrelevant because it’s not how other EU nations are doing, it’s how UK would be doing if it stayed.

And that's what really matters. Down to Brexit supporters to show us the benefits and prove how much better off we are because of it. Because if we aren't better off, what have we gained ?

by 2025 brexit has

1) reduced Uk gdp by 6% to 8%

2) reduced investment by between 12% and 18%

3) reduced employment by 3% to 4%

4) reduced productivity by 3% to 4%

Silly Filly hates the EU because the Germans bombed a distant relative

And that sums up a lot of the "reasoning"

 

[JohnD]

Brexers voted to damage the nation.

The nation is now damaged.

"Leopards ate my face" Sobs woman who voted for Leopards eating faces.

Mottie doesn't care.

 

[blup]

.

 

[Mottie]

There are vast flocks of management and admin in all public services. Eating biscuits and doing powerpoint presentations to each other all day, contributing absolutely nothing to the public good. Many are getting insane salaries - people with absolutely no relevant qualifications getting six-figure salaries for sitting in a chair.

Mrs Mottie had had enough and retired from the NHS last month. The waste and incompetence she witnessed was unbelievable. She had 4 managers above her but in the 15 years she'd been there, there was never a moment when all 4 were at work at the same time, at times there has been just one of them at work. Unexpectedly ( ) , they fücked up her last payslip. Her manager filled her leaving form in incorrectly. She has trouble understanding the English language. She then went on holiday to her home country for three weeks and was due back a month ago. She's not been seen and no other 'manager' will correct the form - not their job, so Mrs Mottie is on the point of raising a formal complaint. Most of the line managers are from this particular country. Whenever they go back home for a holiday, without fail, they either catch an illness, have a close relative or a village elder die or lose their passport which necessitates them remaining there for weeks, if not months. It’s practically a given and yet it continues to happen time after time after time and they are never pulled up on it. They are allowed full sick pay for six months and most of them look on that as holiday entitlement. Just the managers in her department in a small semi rural hospital must cost the NHS tens of thousands of pounds in sick pay alone each year. Multiply that nationwide and it is a big f'cking problem.

 

[Mottie]

Mottie doesn't care.

Bit concerning to know I’m in your head at gone midnight. Get a life mate. Have you tried some of those online dating websites?

 

[fillyboy]

Silly Filly hates the EU because the Germans bombed a distant relative

I wouldn't say my mum was that distant a relative.

 

[SPLINE]

So no facts then.

More immigrants have arrived in Britain in the last 20 years than in the 2000 years before that. And they are reproducing and drawing dole Ivan.

 

[Notch7]

More immigrants have arrived in Britain in the last 20 years than in the 2000 years before that. And they are reproducing and drawing dole Ivan.

I wonder what benefits SPLINE gets?

Does SPLINE work?

I wonder if SPLINE is an immigrant............its usually the 2nd generation immigrants that are so vocal about slamming the door shut