Finally, a grown-up government.

[motorbiking]

This continues to be true, even though biker boy doesn't like it being mentioned.

It's an important reason why Brexers are doomed to disappointment.

Your choice was leave or remain.

This is a fact you pretend isn’t true. It was the same choice everyone else had. There was no secret conspiracy where 17m people had some extra inside knowledge.

Stay as we are or do something different. It was that simple. Sorry you weren’t happy with the result.

 

[motorbiking]

Amusingly, biker boy has recently taken to claiming to be "on the fence" and denying being an anti-EU shill.

JohnD peddles lies. There is nothing recent about my position and vote. Like everyone else I made my choice nearly 10 years ago. Unlike you, I’ve made the best of it.

 

[SPLINE]

Not any longer. They thought the first (really bad) term was an anomaly. Now they know for sure.

Wot? Another scandal that is going to bring down Trump?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

JohnD peddles lies. There is nothing recent about my position and vote. Like everyone else I made my choice nearly 10 years ago. Unlike you, I’ve made the best of it.

But it's difficult to make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

We are all making the best of it. It's just not as good as it was

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

He initiated the 'new start' treaty with Russia and some sort of nuclear deal with Iran.

Yes, exactly.

Well those went well.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Attrition will take a few more years

It won't happen, ever. People have wised up to the EU, you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

Also leaving the EU was a leap into the unknown. The establishment forecast all kinds of doom and the sky falling down. It didn't happen (as it was all lies) so the fear's gone.

As the EU's economy and immigration situation vanishes further down the U-bend we'll be bloody glad we weren't part of it. Nobody sensible wants to jump onto a sinking ship.

Although there'll forever no doubt still be corners of the internet where ranting old codgers are still banging on about the good old days in the EU, along with shillings and threepenny bits and the rest.

 

[Notch7]

Also leaving the EU was a leap into the unknown.

only for ignorant people

As the EU's economy and immigration situation vanishes further down the U-bend

the EU continues to be a global economic superpower and a top trade partner with every major Western economy

I am sorry for your ignorance

Although there'll forerver no doubt still be corners of the internet where ranting old codgers are still banging on about the good old days in the EU, along with shillings and threepenny bits and the rest.

the problems in this country are the result of decades of neoliberalism not EU membership

intelligent people know that leaving the EU or rejoining the EU will not solve the problems in the UK caused by domestic political failures

intelligent people do know that Brexit has made business and trade more difficult and increased prices for consumers -thats just a fact



I am sorry for your inability to absorb facts, it is your right to stay stubbornly ignorant. Enjoy.

 

[noseall]

you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

And you can’t polish a (Brexit) turd.

Luckily there are some folk in this beloved country that are actually quite fond of it and would like to repair the harm, Brexers inflicted upon it.

The recent vote showed there is an appetite for greater unity.

 

[noseall]

Wot? Another scandal that is going to bring down Trump?

Scandal? Nope.
He seems to have enough rope of his own.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It won't happen, ever. People have wised up to the EU,

Are you still claiming we are better off out of it?

you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

Correct. It's been thrown away

Also leaving the EU was a leap into the unknown. The establishment forecast all kinds of doom and the sky falling down. It didn't happen (as it was all lies) so the fear's gone.

And none of the benefits appeared

As the EU's economy and immigration situation vanishes further down the U-bend we'll be bloody glad we weren't part of it. Nobody sensible wants to jump onto a sinking ship.

Have you seen our economy. Dispute all the reports saying we have worsened ourselves.

Although there'll forever no doubt still be corners of the internet where ranting old codgers are still banging on about the good old days in the EU, along with shillings and threepenny bits and the rest.

Just list the benefits Versus the disadvantages in a balanced way. It's so simple. Would answer the question for everybody.

Until then I will keep reminding you that all we did was shoot ourselves in the foot

 

[Highway Man]

Luckily there are some folk in this beloved country that are actually quite fond of it and would like to repair the harm, Brexers inflicted upon it.

You are not one of those

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Thankfully we already did this debate to death 9 years ago, had a vote and decided. Absolutely no point in debating it now.

In 50 years time in carman and notch's old folks home... I remember back in the EU days, you had a red passport and could buy plonk from an industrial estate in some hell-hole in France, broke the suspension on the way home we did, aye them were the days... Ready for your colostomy bag changing and a wipe now?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Thankfully we already did this debate to death 9 years ago, had a vote and decided. Absolutely no point in debating it now.

In 50 years time in carman and notch's old folks home... I remember back in the EU days, you had a red passport and could buy plonk from an industrial estate in some hell-hole in France, broke the suspension on the way home we did, aye them were the days... Ready for your colostomy bag changing and a wipe now?

So no benefits then?

Just a diversionary rant

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

No benefits here. Just work and paying tax. In fact I have customers waiting for my attention, must leave this entertaining but pointless debate.

You? Lots of benefits at a guess, at least judging by your posting record.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

No benefits here. Just work and paying tax. In fact I have customers waiting for my attention, must leave this entertaining but pointless debate.

You? Lots of benefits at a guess, at least judging by your posting record.

Wow. Right over your head.

Benefits of brexit. It's about the 10th time I've asked you for them.

And just for your info I've never taken any benefit. No need to.