ICE told to get the eff out

[ellal]

Telling her to stop what exactly?

Or indeed to stop exactly where, given they had told her to move...

I don't know about you, but back in the day the boys in blue in the UK liked to pull over younger drivers...

But you are also told only to do so when safe...

There was no danger if you chose to carry on until that was the case, unless of course you happened to be 'guilty' of 'possessing the wrong colour of skin'...

But as I've said before, thankfully in the UK cops who kill are still in the small numbers.

 

[noseall]

What was the purpose of her parking her car across the street?

Irrelevant. She can park in the street if she wishes.

Could a reasonable person interpret this as a possible attempt to cause an obstruction?

No. Why would they. The ICE agents were able to go about their business.

Who was the likely target of that obstruction?

What obstruction?

Does that give grounds to suspect felony obstruction of justice?

Only in your imagination.


Again - please explain how she was preventing them from going about their business.

He can't, he won't.

 

[MNW67]

Sitting in your car looking at ICE agents can get you murdered in the US - correct.

Were you aware of how far away she actually was from the operation? I was surprised.

 

[noseall]

Were you aware of how far away she actually was from the operation?

No.

What baffles me is why they fixated on her. If I was an ICE agent I'd just let them blow off steam whilst I and my colleagues, go passport checking.

 

[blup]

You are getting very silly now

It’s not rocket science, IC E was set up post9 11 to address the terorrist threat. People who have worked for decades in America for without the papers are not terorrists, still less some passers by trying to move on.

 

[MNW67]

No. Why would they. The ICE agents were able to go about their business.

MBK now seems to be changing from claiming that she was actually obstructing the ICE agents, to claiming that they had a reasonable suspicion that she had attempted to obstruct them. Even though she didn't cause any actual obstruction.

 

[Highway Man]

Should have sent this dog in to get her out.. Would have been nice to see.

 

[ellal]

MBK now seems to be changing from claiming that she was actually obstructing the ICE agents, to claiming that they had a reasonable suspicion that she had attempted to obstruct them. Even though she didn't cause any actual obstruction.

The standard 'whataboutery' when the evidence suggests otherwise...

We heard the same about the execution of a Brazilian electrician in the Tube...

Funnily enough the 'immigrant angle' was bandied about at that time also

 

[motorbiking]

No.

What baffles me is why they fixated on her. If I was an ICE agent I'd just let them blow off steam whilst I and my colleagues, go passport checking.

Yep - that would have been better for everyone, with the benefit of hind sight.

 

[SPLINE]

Yep - that would have been better for everyone, with the benefit of hind sight.

It's a pity Noseall wasn't there at the time to cool things down.

 

[Highway Man]

It's a pity Noseall wasn't there at the time to cool things down.

He would definitely had been shot.

 

[noseall]

ICE agents didn't have an exclusion zone and the USA is still the land of the free....

The U.S. Constitution, primarily through the First Amendment, protects the freedom to use public open spaces (like parks, streets, and sidewalks) for expression, assembly, and speech.

So why why was the angry masked man so fixated on murdering the 'fúkking bítch' I wonder?

 

[motorbiking]

MBK now seems to be changing from claiming that she was actually obstructing the ICE agents, to claiming that they had a reasonable suspicion that she had attempted to obstruct them. Even though she didn't cause any actual obstruction.

I haven't changed anything.

Unfortunately, you've formed a view and closed your mind.

It seems reasonably clear that her intent was to obstruct or interfere with their activities. She was quite chuffed with this when she first spoke to the officer from her car. She was clearly given instructions to get out of the car and clearly chose to drive off instead

This video is as good as any:

Video filmed by ICE agent who shot Minneapolis woman emerges

The clip shows the moments before gunfire rang out on a Minneapolis street.

www.bbc.co.uk

The standard 'whataboutery' when the evidence suggests otherwise...

We heard the same about the execution of a Brazilian electrician in the Tube...

Funnily enough the 'immigrant angle' was bandied about at that time also

before I even joined the forum.. impressive.

 

[Highway Man]

ICE agents didn't have an exclusion zone and the USA is still the land of the free....

The U.S. Constitution, primarily through the First Amendment, protects the freedom to use public open spaces (like parks, streets, and sidewalks) for expression, assembly, and speech.

So why why was the angry masked man so fixated on murdering 'fúkking bítch' I wonder?

She gambled trying to be clever, smug and entitled, she got shot for doing so. Suck it up buttercup.

 

[MNW67]

So we've gone from Trump claiming the killer was run over, hospitalised and nearly died, his DHS Secretary claiming that Renee was a domestic terrorist who tried to mow down agents stuck in snow bank and Vance having the mother of all hissy fits, to finally finding out the truth. Renee was parked two hundred yards away pipping her horn.