ICE told to get the eff out

[motorbiking]

1st Amendment.

We could go all day if you wish....

Why do you think this is about freedom of speech and not seizure / arrest?

 

[motorbiking]

Their powers are limited, yes. We have had this conversation.

I don’t recall. I would have corrected you at the time if so.

 

[noseall]

Why do you think this is about freedom of speech and not seizure / arrest?

They are not mutually exclusive. If you want to discuss her 4th Amendment rights, go ahead. I'm not interested.

 

[noseall]

I would have corrected you at the time if so.

Corrected what?

 

[Highway Man]

1st Amendment.

We could go all day if you wish....

Someone has lost their life and you still think this way, how odd.

 

[motorbiking]

They are not mutually exclusive. If you want to discuss her 4th Amendment right, go ahead. I'm not interested.

It’s pretty straightforward. The issue is whether her 4th amendment rights were violated, by an unlawful use of force. Apart from you, I’ve not heard anyone suggest she was protected by her 1st amendment rights.

 

[noseall]

I’ve not heard anyone suggest she was protected by her 1st amendment rights.

You have now.

 

[motorbiking]

Corrected what?

ICE are federal law enforcement officers, their powers are not limited with regard to their role. It’s true that they do not enforce as many laws as local law enforcement, because these are not federal laws. They have all necessary powers.

 

[noseall]

waffle

ICE officers do not have the same power as state or local police. While they are federal law enforcement officers, their authority is specialized and subject to different legal constraints.

Key Differences in Authority (as of 2026)

• Subject Matter Jurisdiction: ICE agents enforce federal immigration and customs laws. Unlike local police, they do not have the authority to enforce state or local laws, such as traffic violations (e.g., speeding or DUIs) or common state crimes like residential burglary.
• Authority Over Citizens: ICE has very limited authority over U.S. citizens. They may only detain a citizen in rare cases, such as if the individual is assaulting an officer or interfering with a lawful arrest.

 

[motorbiking]

You have now.

Anyone with lnowl

ICE officers do not have the same power as state or local police. While they are federal law enforcement officers, their authority is specialized and subject to different legal constraints.

Key Differences in Authority (as of 2026)

• Subject Matter Jurisdiction: ICE agents enforce federal immigration and customs laws. Unlike local police, they do not have the authority to enforce state or local laws, such as traffic violations (e.g., speeding or DUIs) or common state crimes like residential burglary.
• Authority Over Citizens: ICE has very limited authority over U.S. citizens. They may only detain a citizen in rare cases, such as if the individual is assaulting an officer or interfering with a lawful arrest.

There you go.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

"interfering" definitely covers protesting, road-blocking and generally getting in the way.

 

[noseall]

There you go.

again.

 

[noseall]

"interfering" definitely covers protesting, road-blocking and generally getting in the way.

But she was not stopping them going about their jobs. The road was not blocked. The officers were free to go about their business but strangely decided to persecute a woman in a car.

 

[MNW67]

Why do you think this is about freedom of speech and not seizure / arrest?

Is it about the right to protest, including filming law enforcement?

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

But she was not stopping them going about their jobs. The road was not blocked. The officers were free to go about their business but strangely decided to persecute a woman in a car.

Do you actually believe what you write?

You really think that happened?!

If so you need help.