The UK government didn’t want you to see this report

[Odds]

Are you talking on behalf of this government?

No. See post #5

Do you work for them?

No. Nor any other corporate interest.

BTW, Tories failed, but at least we were surviving.

Do you see that as a bonus?

With Labour all we see is massive U-turns, corruption and massive taxes for the working class.

Substitute Tory/Reform for Labour and there'd be no difference.

All of this while they destroy the environment for our own benefit.

HS2 is cutting a huge swathe through the environment, is way over budget and will not be finished on schedule. It's what our governments do.
(see post#5)

I believe you...not.

What is the basis of your unbelief that we have made a difference in the way our society has risen to the challenge of climate change?

 

[Lirefighter]

No. See post #5



No. Nor any other corporate interest.



Do you see that as a bonus?



Substitute Tory/Reform for Labour and there'd be no difference.



HS2 is cutting a huge swathe through the environment, is way over budget and will not be finished on schedule. It's what our governments do.
(see post#5)

What is the basis of your unbelief that we have made a difference in the way our society has risen to the challenge of climate change?

Are the Guardian, and BBC complicit in this cover up?
They normal love a bit of climate catastrophism.

 

[Odds]

Are the Guardian, and BBC complicit in this cover up?
They normal love a bit of climate catastrophism.

I doubt it since it's in The Grarundia.

 

[Lirefighter]

I doubt it since it's in The Grarundia.

Did they beg for money before allowing people to read it?

 

[transam]

Jeez us

a war and peace long post again

All about some thing the government has surpressed / buried /

Some thing like that any way afai can see

Life is to short to wade through it

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

There is a solution, which China has, for it's own state some years ago, recognised. e

The human overpopulation of the planet.

The Fabians are well into the same sort of thing - Kier Starmer's club.

They don't want to bother with birth control though, they just want to kill the people that they don't like.

I'm not joking.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

No. Nor any other corporate interest.

On the dole then?

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

I doubt it since it's in The Grarundia.

If you'd said so at the start I wouldn't have bothered even skim-reading it.

I'll put some facts up from The Beano or Viz, either has more credibility than the Guardian.

 

[johnny2007]

What is the basis of your unbelief that we have made a difference in the way our society has risen to the challenge of climate change?

Whatever they have done with our taxes in the past few decades, it's not working.
The climate is still changing and accordingly to the same people who destroy the environment (politicians), the temperature is rising 3 degrees/day.

 

[ellal]

The system was crazy -- we gave the EU millions for them to give few pounds back as subsidies to farmers and people called it an EU subsidy - like the money never came from us in the first place

I think you misunderstood...

The EU subsidies were worth £3.5bn a year and represented up to 50% of rural funding...

Only a proportion of that came from the UK EU contributions...

Farmers were actually net beneficiaries but the leave campaign lies convinced them they were being robbed...

Since then they have been as expected shafted, and as such the money that was supposed to support the protection of the environment is no longer there...

The EU leveled up areas that state governments ignored, and the UK economy/countryside is now paying the price of brexit!

 

[JohnD]

OK, for the intellectually challenged... if you want more trees there'll be less food.

Simple really, if you think about it.

Wrong.

If you clear a forest, somebody makes more money.

The person making the money does not pay the costs of the environmental damage.

That's why they do it.

 

[JohnD]

...the temperature is rising 3 degrees/day.

Nobody says that.

 

[morqthana]

Too much waffle, What's the crux of the matter?

Try reading the posts again.

Or the article in one chunk on the website.

The UK government didn't want you to see this report on ecosystem collapse. I'm not surprised | George Monbiot

It took an FOI request to bring this national security assessment to light. For ‘doomsayers’ like us, it is the ultimate vindication, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot

www.theguardian.com

It's only 1069 words - hardly War & Peace...

 

[morqthana]

It’s just a George Monbiot rant

What definition of "rant" are you relying on there?

Which nobody bothered to read.

And if you didn't read it, how would you know it was a "rant", however you define the word?

 

[morqthana]

Correct. But why would the government hide this information - could it be too inconvenient to tell the public the truth?

It does seem odd, given that their opponents aren't interested in the truth.