The UK government didn’t want you to see this report

[JohnD]

There's no need to disprove nonsense, it just is.

That's true of a lot of your posts.

 

[aveatry]

That's what communities do. Help out poorer regions in order that they then become more prosperous.

But as for contributions, the UK's was approximately £8.5bn per annum...

Brexit costing UK up to £90bn in lost tax revenue a year, new analysis shows

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[Harry Bloomfield]

Where have those taxes gone? Dealing with illegal migration, would be my guess, in reaction to fartrage blowing a foghorn about them. Why are more coming to these shores? Climate change in their country is one of those reasons, highlighting what the report says about global climate change.

Nope, not even nearly right. They are economic migrants, pure and simple. Here in the West, we have had great improvements in mobility. Those very same improvements in mobility in the Western world, have filtered down to the Third World. Those in the Third World, learned how much more lucrative life was here, from others who had made the trip, helped by modern communications which also filtered down to them. The more we get, the more we will get, until finally our system is totally overwhelmed.

Were it due simply to climate change, then there would be a representative mix of ages, and gender, arriving on our shores - They are not, they are by far, mostly highly mobile young males.

 

[morqthana]

What's the matter suddenly lost your ability to use google

Council houses to be built for asylum seekers in new scheme Dec 2025
The Government pilot would aim to allow councils to buy more properties – including in new housing
New council houses to be built for asylum seekers in push to end use of hotels
Asylum seekers will be housed in newly built council houses as part of a push to end the use of asylum hotels and private landlords.
Around 200 local authorities have indicated interest in the Government pilot scheme that would fund the building of new properties to make room for asylum seekers. Five councils - Brighton and Hove, Hackney, Peterborough, Thanet, and Powys - have confirmed they are keen to take part in the scheme.

So a policy which will result in more properties becoming a permanent part of councils' housing stock, at no cost to those councils, is popular with 200 democratically elected councils but not you.

OK.

 

[securespark]

HS2 is cutting a huge swathe through the environment, is way over budget and will not be finished on schedule. It's what our governments do.
(see post#5)

But it's all OK because some chum will get their pockets lined with lots of lovely lolly!

 

[morqthana]

Nope, not even nearly right. They are economic migrants, pure and simple.

Between 2018 and 2024, the asylum grant rate for people who arrived by small boat was 68%, higher than the grant rate for asylum applicants overall.

Here in the West, we have had great improvements in mobility. Those very same improvements in mobility in the Western world, have filtered down to the Third World. Those in the Third World, learned how much more lucrative life was here, from others who had made the trip, helped by modern communications which also filtered down to them. The more we get, the more we will get, until finally our system is totally overwhelmed.

The value of asylum support payments fell 37% in real terms (that is, accounting for inflation) between 2000 and 2024

Were it due simply to climate change, then there would be a representative mix of ages, and gender, arriving on our shores - They are not, they are by far, mostly highly mobile young males.

Because making the journey is dangerous - it makes sense for a family to send its fittest, strongest members on that journey, with other members coming later through refugee family reunion.

 

[aveatry]

So a policy which will result in more properties becoming a permanent part of councils' housing stock, at no cost to those councils, is popular with 200 democratically elected councils but not you.
OK.

You asked
Where are they doing that?
Got any numbers, details of developments, etc?
I showed you - and that is the end of my conversation with you.

 

[Odds]

Nope, not even nearly right. They are economic migrants, pure and simple. Here in the West, we have had great improvements in mobility. Those very same improvements in mobility in the Western world, have filtered down to the Third World. Those in the Third World, learned how much more lucrative life was here, from others who had made the trip, helped by modern communications which also filtered down to them. The more we get, the more we will get, until finally our system is totally overwhelmed.

Yes, but how much of their country's economy is affected by climate change, enforcing their migration in the first place?

Were it due simply to climate change, then there would be a representative mix of ages, and gender, arriving on our shores - They are not, they are by far, mostly highly mobile young males.

Historically, younger working age men would go ahead to find work and a house then bring over the rest of the family. If they entered illegally, then found work and their famillies came over legally, where's the crime?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

If they entered illegally, then found work and their famillies came over legally, where's the crime?

They came over illegally - there is the crime.

 

[JohnD]

Harry seems to be complaining that there are not enough women and children migrants.

I didn't realise he wants to feed and house more people.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Harry seems to be complaining that there are not enough women and children migrants.

I didn't realise he wants to feed and house more people.

That's one heck of a silly interpretation. Obviously that wasn't what he said, you're making stuff up.

 

[JohnD]

Ah, you mean he was complaining about insufficient women and children, but hadn't thought about the costs involved.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

No, I mean that you're making stuff up that he obviously didn't say, mean or imply.