Bus driver sacked OMG

MNW67 · 2026-02-04T21:19:51+0000

Elsa TLC said:
Post it again. I missed it

#239

motorbiking · 2026-02-04T21:20:03+0000

MNW67 said:
Yes. But it looks like the CCTV evidence is not clear cut. So, I suppose what the judge is saying is that the interpretation by the bus company is not a wholly unreasonable interpretation of what happened. And as long as they genuinely believe it, he had no power to overturn it. Presumably, in a civil court case, say for battery, the judge would have to decide on the balance of probabilities what actually happened. However, this is a tribunal and it looks like the rules are different

which is a bit odd. If we take that to the extreme someone conducting a disciplinary hearing could come to the honest belief that a crime had been committed and therefore lawfully dismiss someone for gross misconduct, only to find out that their understanding of the law was wrong.

either way - the HR team need firing. they could have sacked him immediately, instead of suspending him and simply reverse the decision if they changed their mind.

MNW67 · 2026-02-04T21:21:56+0000

motorbiking said:
which is a bit odd. If we take that to the extreme someone conducting a disciplinary hearing could come to the honest belief that a crime had been committed and therefore lawfully dismiss someone for gross misconduct, only to find out that their understanding of the law was wrong.

I actually edited my post a bit.

I believe they need to show that their interpretation fell within a reasonable range of interpretations.

Dec27 · 2026-02-04T21:39:45+0000

This threads getting pathetic. It’s just another pi55ing contest.

The Driver did the right thing. End of imho.

Highway Man · 2026-02-04T21:41:48+0000

Dec27 said:
This threads getting pathetic. It’s just another pi55ing contest.

The Driver did the right thing. End of imho.

Anything that nosenowt, odds and the rest of the loonies jump on, this is how they go.

Dec27 · 2026-02-04T22:14:59+0000

Highway Man said:
Anything that nosenowt, odds and the rest of the loonies jump on, this is how they go.

Losers the lot of em.

morqthana · 2026-02-04T22:31:54+0000

MNW67 said:
Yes. But it looks like the CCTV evidence is not clear cut. So, I suppose what the judge is saying is that the interpretation by the bus company fell within the range of reasonable interpretations of what happened. And as long as they genuinely believe that interpretation, he had no power to overturn it. Presumably, in a civil court case, say for battery, the judge would have to decide on the balance of probabilities what actually happened. However, this is a tribunal and it looks like the rules are different

AFAICT, the role of the tribunal was not to re-examine all of the evidence or re-litigate the decision, it was to see if the employer acted fairly, and that if the tribunal finds that they did, if it finds that they followed their procedures, including internal reviews and appeals, if they properly scrutinised all of the evidence, listened to the employee's version, and came to a determination which they could convincingly argue was reasonable, then the employer's decision stands - the employee was not unfairly dismissed.

The judge's role was not to decide on the balance of probabilities what actually happened, it was to decide if the disciplinary process was fair, and fairly implemented.

Remember something doesn't have to be unlawful for it to be against the terms of your employment. It's not unlawful to have more than one job, but many employers will sack you if they find you have another one, even without any conflict of interest.

Provided you don't cross the line into hate speech or a public order offence etc, it's not unlawful to express racist/Islamophobic/homophobic/whatever-phobic, even antisemitic, views, or to mock the disabled, or tell misogynistic jokes, and so on. But do it wearing a company uniform and they could well say, with justification, that you were bringing the company into disrepute. Post it on a company social media channel ditto.

It wouldn't be unlawful for me to hang a girlie calendar in the shed (although Mrs M would have a few choice words to say), but on an office wall? Could well be a disciplinary matter.

morqthana · 2026-02-04T22:35:22+0000

motorbiking said:
What is interesting is that the tribunal allowed the incorrect opinion of the disciplinary board to stand.

In what way was it "incorrect"?

morqthana · 2026-02-04T22:37:12+0000

motorbiking said:
Yes - that feels somehow wrong to me. You?

It's what the law is, surely?

morqthana · 2026-02-04T22:46:49+0000

Elsa TLC said:
Just go backwards from this post.

No - you do that and prove the truth of your allegation.

Oh - except you can't, can you, because your allegation is untrue.

Elsa TLC said:
Back that way.

Do you drive a moped?

Is that when you dont talk boIIocks?

Just as I predicted.

morqthana · 2026-02-04T22:50:39+0000

Highway Man said:
Seen plenty of bus drivers going for a pee and leaving the bus unattended

In a bus station, or out on the roads?

Elsa TLC · 2026-02-04T22:51:52+0000

morqthana said:
In a bus station, or out on the roads?

In a bush

morqthana · 2026-02-04T23:30:09+0000

Dec27 said:
Your posts are long and boring. What’s the point ?

Not everybody has problems with concentration and paying attention.

ReganAndCarter · 2026-02-04T23:31:54+0000

johnny2007 said:
The nutcase is liking his own posts

Well I suppose someone has to.

ReganAndCarter · 2026-02-04T23:38:26+0000

How much time on his hands in his Mum's bedroom must Himmy have? Jeez! Unending pages of multiquotes, guff and lefty waffle from his multiple schizo usernames - benefitting insomniacs and no one else. Thankfully ignore also saves having to scroll down past all this bilge.

Hysterical that the saddo will immediately pounce on this and have a reply in a nanosecond. Even though I can no longer read his garbage.

Bus driver sacked OMG

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