Who thinks Labour are doing well?

[Brigadier]

The Tories were equally as incompetent but with added sleaze and corruption.

This.

 

[Dec27]

One of the reasons Labour governments are quite rare is because of the mainly right wing biased news outlets. The Tories were equally as incompetent but with added sleaze and corruption.
Although Starmer's Labour have done some pretty stupid things. The winter fuel payment fiasco, increasing employers NI then wonder why the employment figures suffer, and then offer employers money to employ people !!?? Utter stupidity.
However I cannot ignore sensible things Labour has done, like repair our relationship with European, although they need to go much further IMO, as the most damaging thing to our economy is trade friction with the EU (our largest and closest group of trading nations, 46% of all UK trade, voting to leave the EU was the most stupid and ignorant thing the British electorate ever did).
Hiring more teachers, primary school breakfast clubs, more NHS investment which has reduced waiting times, investments in energy savings and decarbonisation which is saving many hundreds of millions across many NHS organisations (which is what I'm working on at the moment).
To dismiss everything Labour is doing that is good, you need to have a pretty high level of political entrenchment, or ignorance, or both.

I know it’s early, but- Word salad of the day above ?

 

[warey4life]

I know it’s early, but- Word salad of the day above ?

Explain why it's word salad?

 

[motorbiking]

The fundamental thing you have to fix is unemployment. That needs to be about the 4-4.5M mark, then you need to fix tax contributions by driving up incomes, so that more people are paying in than taking out. Once you've done that, you can set realistic budgets for services and size the public sector accordingly.

 

[Dec27]

Explain why it's word salad?

Well mainly, you wrote it.

 

[Brigadier]

Please refrain from personal attacks. Attack the post not the man,.....

 

[warey4life]

Well mainly, you wrote it.

Showing your lack of intelligence now.

 

[Dec27]

Showing your lack of intelligence now.

I’ve re done it properly for you. Maybe people will read it now:



One of the reasons Labour governments are quite rare is because of the mainly right-wing biased news outlets. The Tories were equally as incompetent, but with added sleaze and corruption.

Although Starmer’s Labour have done some pretty stupid things—the winter fuel payment fiasco, increasing employers’ NI and then wondering why employment figures suffer, and then offering employers money to employ people—utter stupidity.

However, I cannot ignore the sensible things Labour has done, such as repairing our relationship with Europe, although they need to go much further, in my opinion. The most damaging thing to our economy is trade friction with the EU (our largest and closest group of trading nations, accounting for 46% of all UK trade). Voting to leave the EU was the most stupid and ignorant thing the British electorate ever did.

Hiring more teachers, introducing primary school breakfast clubs, increasing NHS investment—which has reduced waiting times—and investing in energy savings and decarbonisation are all positive steps. These measures are saving many hundreds of millions across numerous NHS organisations (which is what I’m working on at the moment).

To dismiss everything Labour is doing that is good, you need to have a pretty high level of political entrenchment, or ignorance—or both.

 

[JP_]

Brewdog is an excellent example of what happens when you get carried away with cashing out to PE investment. It’s got so much investment debt, it is almost impossible for it to survive.

I know a guy that worked in head office. Management allegedly a bunch of clueless idiots, who treated staff poorly. Now American owned, so no surprise.

But yeah, let's blame labour for that too.

 

[motorbiking]

I know a guy that worked in head office. Management allegedly a bunch of clueless idiots, who treated staff poorly. Now American owned, so no surprise.

But yeah, let's blame labour for that too.

Nobody has blamed Labour for Brewdog's poor gearing, the comment was that while Labour's employment laws have done real damage (note unemployment levels) they don't seem to have improved anyone's rights.
giving more rights doesn't help if the infrastructure to enforce them isn't there. Currently there is a tribunal backlog of over 1/2 a million. if you brought an unfair dismissal claim today, you'd probably be waiting 2 years.

I've seen nothing to suggest Labour have thought through how greater rights will be claimed.

 

[Old Salt]

If you want sleaze and corruption Mandelson and Rayner have done a pretty good job. That’s politics for you, do as I say and I shall get on with doing whatever the hell I would like.

 

[warey4life]

I’ve re done it properly for you. Maybe people will read it now:



One of the reasons Labour governments are quite rare is because of the mainly right-wing biased news outlets. The Tories were equally as incompetent, but with added sleaze and corruption.

Although Starmer’s Labour have done some pretty stupid things—the winter fuel payment fiasco, increasing employers’ NI and then wondering why employment figures suffer, and then offering employers money to employ people—utter stupidity.

However, I cannot ignore the sensible things Labour has done, such as repairing our relationship with Europe, although they need to go much further, in my opinion. The most damaging thing to our economy is trade friction with the EU (our largest and closest group of trading nations, accounting for 46% of all UK trade). Voting to leave the EU was the most stupid and ignorant thing the British electorate ever did.

Hiring more teachers, introducing primary school breakfast clubs, increasing NHS investment—which has reduced waiting times—and investing in energy savings and decarbonisation are all positive steps. These measures are saving many hundreds of millions across numerous NHS organisations (which is what I’m working on at the moment).

To dismiss everything Labour is doing that is good, you need to have a pretty high level of political entrenchment, or ignorance—or both.

The original post for context:

One of the reasons Labour governments are quite rare is because of the mainly right wing biased news outlets. The Tories were equally as incompetent but with added sleaze and corruption.
Although Starmer's Labour have done some pretty stupid things. The winter fuel payment fiasco, increasing employers NI then wonder why the employment figures suffer, and then offer employers money to employ people !!?? Utter stupidity.
However I cannot ignore sensible things Labour has done, like repair our relationship with European, although they need to go much further IMO, as the most damaging thing to our economy is trade friction with the EU (our largest and closest group of trading nations, 46% of all UK trade, voting to leave the EU was the most stupid and ignorant thing the British electorate ever did).
Hiring more teachers, primary school breakfast clubs, more NHS investment which has reduced waiting times, investments in energy savings and decarbonisation which is saving many hundreds of millions across many NHS organisations (which is what I'm working on at the moment).
To dismiss everything Labour is doing that is good, you need to have a pretty high level of political entrenchment, or ignorance, or both.

 

[Dec27]

The original post for context:

Mines laid out properly. People might enjoy it now.

You’re welcome

 

[Ihavenojob]

Workers rights and increase in minimum wage and employers NI = more unemployment
Renters rights = more evictions and landlords selling up
Budgets caused more harm to the economy than Truss supposedly caused.
The people who think labour are doing well are labour's core voters, i.e the workshy spongers. Labour increase benefits to ensure vast numbers of the population rely on tax payers money to loaf around, so these people will do their best to keep labour in power and the the money I pay rolling in. I think labour have done a sh1t job.

 

[Brigadier]

Workers rights and increase in minimum wage and employers NI = more unemployment
Renters rights = more evictions and landlords selling up
Budgets caused more harm to the economy than Truss supposedly caused.
The people who think labour are doing well are labour's core voters, i.e the workshy spongers. Labour increase benefits to ensure vast numbers of the population rely on tax payers money to loaf around, so these people will do their best to keep labour in power and the the money I pay rolling in. I think labour have done a sh1t job.

Yet, according to the right wangers...

The country's been potless for years
It's been riddled with benefit scroungers for years


On my second remark then, if what you posted has any truth about it, why has Labour been nowhere near government for decades?
(you claiming Labour having a ready supply of voters to hand)?