New High tech cameras to enforce 20mph roads

Justin Passing said:
Regarding all your trolling - Seems you need to get off the roads . Zero common sense.
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You can, I take it, produce a rational, intelligently argued case which shows that I've been posting cynically, just to create conflict? To argue for the sake of arguing as some kind of perverse fun? To sow division?

No - of course you can't. You accuse me of trolling because you cannot manage anything better.
 
diy_fun_uk said:
That takes us full circle though. Unfortunately it's the few that spoil it for the many. And there's no way the authorities have the resources to enforce limits here there everywhere.
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They enforce the limits, where it's easy, and worthwhile, where people naturally speed. Those areas where few do speed, are the ones where it is less productive, are the areas is more of an issue- the residential roads.
 
Deluks said:
A high court judge is opposed to these LTN's...

www.localgov.co.uk

Croydon LTNs to be scrapped by order of judge | LocalGov

Croydon Council’s low traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs) have been deemed unlawful by a High Court judge.
www.localgov.co.uk www.localgov.co.uk
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That's old news and been posted here
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Post in thread 'Climate Change'

Latest news
The High Court has ruled that six low-traffic neighbourhoods operated by a London council were unlawful.
Croydon Council's primary motivation was generating revenue from motorists rather than reducing pollution or enhancing road safety, the court ruled.
Mr Justice Pepperall delivered his judgment on Thursday, finding that the financially troubled council had exercised its powers for an "improper purpose" when it made the LTN schemes permanent in 2024.
The judge quashed the orders establishing the traffic restrictions, concluding that safeguarding income...
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All together now --- feel scammed yet
 
morqthana said:
60% of people in Wales voted in the 2021 Senedd election for parties that had a national 20mph default limit in their election manifestos.
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Did Justin produce any evidence that your statement is incorrect?
 
Whenever I go 20mph people get angry with me, even 30mph I get people overtaking me.
 
morqthana said:
No, he's opposed to unlawful LTN schemes.

What you're saying is like saying a High Court judge is opposed to sandwich bars if he ruled against a particular sandwich bar in a particular case.
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The LTN's referred to in that link were unlawful. That was the 6 LTN's referred to in the link and no others. Are you having trouble sleeping again? Try turning your PC off and going to bed instead of scratching around looking for an argument. You’ll feel better for it in the morning.
 
morqthana said:
60% of people in Wales voted in the 2021 Senedd election for parties that had a national 20mph default limit in their election manifestos.
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Subsequently, it has become deeply unpopular, with many councils now reversing the changes.
www.walesonline.co.uk

Full list of 20mph roads in Wales that are now 30mph again

There are plenty of roads that have reverted back to 30mph, while decisions on others are still being made
www.walesonline.co.uk www.walesonline.co.uk

72% say they opposed the new limit. (yougov 2024).
news.sky.com

Seven in 10 oppose default 20mph speed limit in Wales, new poll finds - as Welsh government vows to 'listen' to concerns

The policy faced considerable opposition, including a record-breaking petition on the Senedd's website. But the Welsh government says the change is saving lives.
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motorbiking said:
There is no correlation between speed and accident rates
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Interesting non-relevant fact.
Keep your eyes covered when you look at higher speeds vs fatalities and serious accidents and what 20 MPH is all about.

motorbiking said:
Motorways have the fewest accidents.
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Glad you mentioned roads where there are no pedestrians or kids wandering about. Makes another valid argument in favour of 20MPH where they do exist.
Road safety officers and those in favour of slower speeds in built up areas, thank you for your support.
 
motorbiking said:
Subsequently, it has become deeply unpopular, with many councils now reversing the changes.
www.walesonline.co.uk

Full list of 20mph roads in Wales that are now 30mph again

There are plenty of roads that have reverted back to 30mph, while decisions on others are still being made
www.walesonline.co.uk www.walesonline.co.uk

72% say they opposed the new limit. (yougov 2024).
news.sky.com

Seven in 10 oppose default 20mph speed limit in Wales, new poll finds - as Welsh government vows to 'listen' to concerns

The policy faced considerable opposition, including a record-breaking petition on the Senedd's website. But the Welsh government says the change is saving lives.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
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They are here to stay where they are needed. Expect more towns and cities to do the same.
They are not going away boyo, no matter how many experimental limits are reverted back.
 
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