Help with this fixing!

[ploobadoof]

Hi all

DIY newibie here needing some help...

I'm in the middle of replacing a shower, and have removed the old one to expose this.

I need to remove the copper pipe (arrow pointing to it), from the yellow/white part.

I thought it might be one that you push the white bit back on, to release the copper pipe, but that doesn't seem to do anything.

This is literally all I have to work with, the rest is buried behind the wall, so my only option is to replace that copper bit with a longer one.

Can anyone help me on how I release it?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Madrab]

They are old JG pushfit and that's exactly how you release them. Push in the white collar, the trouble is those one tend to become very stubborn after they've been in for a long time and the teeth and dug in and become reluctant to release.

Get a pair of pliers that have the curved part in the jaws, put that over the pipe and push them in against the collar squarely, keep the collar pushed in, then push the pipe in towards the fitting slightly to release the grip of the teeth and then try to pull out. Hopefully the pipe in behind the wall is secure and doesn't move.

 

[denso13]

I thought it might be one that you push the white bit back on, to release the copper pipe, but that doesn't seem to do anything.

That should do it, make sure you are pushing it in fully, all the way round. And pull harder!

 

[oldbuffer]

1. Looks like a JG Speedfit coupler / elbow.
2. I can't tell from the photograph, but sometimes there is a collar between the fitting and the white ring, to stop it being accidentally pushed in. If there is such a ring, remove it.
3. Push the white ring towards the body of the fitting, and twist the pipe while pulling it out.
4. If re-using, put a smear of silicone grease inside the fitting, spreading round the inside of the fitting with a stiff brush or piece of wood. Don't use your finger!

 

[ploobadoof]

Thanks Rob - does this type need the yellow part unscrewing before pushing the white bit, or is it just a case of pushing the white bit?

If it needs anything unscrewing, I might be scuppered,,,

 

[denso13]

does this type need the yellow part unscrewing before pushing the white bit, or is it just a case of pushing the white bit?

No, just push the white bit in.

 

[foxhole]

May have a locking threaded collar which is not accessible without breaking tile to expose .

 

[foxhole]

https://www.screwfix.com/p/jg-speedfit-plastic-push-fit-equal-90-elbow-15mm/97179?tc=PA6&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19822796606&gbraid=0AAAAAD8IdPzIbKCkOcMnv5AzuBCQQ8dYh&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoeeqlJPDkwMVVKJQBh1NACPYEAQYASABEgIpPPD_BwE

Video explanation here .

 

[ploobadoof]

Thank you

 

[ploobadoof]

May have a locking threaded collar which is not accessible without breaking tile to expose .

This is what I was afraid of...

 

[denso13]

This is what I was afraid of...

No locking collar on the older fittings like yours.

 

[Madrab]

+1 - they are the old standard JG fittings, they have exactly the same end as the current stop ends, tap/valve ends and flexi pipes etc, there is no nut that unscrews, like the modern speedfit twist and lock fittings. There isn't a locking collet in there either, it would be between the white collar and the yellow (yellowed with age) body of the fitting but the old fittings didn't come with them.

So the end you are looking at is basically the same as this but will probably be an elbow, the collar on the end is pushed in and the pipe pulled out

Yours is old and can be a real mare to get them to release, hence the pliers to push the collar in evenly all the way around and a little push in of the pipe before pulling at it to try and release the bite of the teeth, that'll only work though if that fitting is fixed tight and doesn't move into the wall when pushing on the fitting.

 

[oldbuffer]

I'd try to get a piece of something like thin electrical flex round the fitting inside the wall, just to give something to pull on should it disappear into the wall when the pipe comes free.